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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 1 March 2023
Stephen Kerr
Can we start with the issue of the definitions and what your calculation of those definitions is in terms of the number of people the bill will cover?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 1 March 2023
Stephen Kerr
There is an element of self-identification in there as well, is there not?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 1 March 2023
Stephen Kerr
But who ultimately decides? Some people will feel that their children should be included in the category of people who automatically receive a support plan, and others will say that they should not. Who ultimately decides?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 1 March 2023
Stephen Kerr
Kaukab Stewart will talk about the financial implications of the definition, which are significant.
I will move on to my last question. In the evidence on the bill, we have heard a number of memorable phrases that have stuck with me. One was about the salad that was much mentioned earlier. Another was when someone said, “You can’t legislate for a relationship.” We know from the evidence that we have received, particularly from the individuals who are the most impacted—the young people and their parents and carers—that relationships are the critical element in all this. For example, you mentioned in your opening statement the individual from Falkirk, who has been much mentioned and whose job is based around supporting families and individuals with the transition journey right through to the age of 25, as you mentioned. That single point of contact therefore becomes a critical relationship in the management of what you described as a “project”.
When it comes to the resources that will flow with the bill, should every local authority have someone like the person we heard about in Falkirk? What are the implications of that for the direction of resources, which are already quite scarce?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 22 February 2023
Stephen Kerr
As it stands, however, there is nothing in it that you think would absolutely make a good piece of legislation that would be helpful to the young people concerned or to the Government in focusing its efforts and working with COSLA to deliver a better experience.
11:15Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 22 February 2023
Stephen Kerr
Scott Richardson-Read, your contribution was interesting, especially when you referred to the legislation salad. You also talked about the plan. Am I picking up that you do not think that that can be legislated for? Is it just that you want the bill to be more prescriptive? In the same vein, you talked about what I think is the question of the morning: can you legislate a relationship? Of course, you cannot. What are your thoughts?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 22 February 2023
Stephen Kerr
That is a realistic approach to what legislation can and cannot do. Should the matter be legislated on?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 22 February 2023
Stephen Kerr
Is there nothing substantive on the agreement that you reached? Was it simply verbally agreed? You refer to the Official Report of the proceedings of Parliament. I get that and I agree with you that your expectations were well described but, when you make an agreement with COSLA, surely it has to be set out in specific detail what the expectation is and what the accountability is for it.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 22 February 2023
Stephen Kerr
Good morning, ministers. From the memorandum that you lodged, it is clear that you support the intent of the bill. I think that that is a pretty universal feeling. We have heard lots of evidence that there is a breakdown in the process through which these young people go, and about how they are often very badly let down.
In relation to the bill, you have raised one concern about the designation of a minister. Do you have other concerns about the provisions in the bill in relation to the fundamental question that we all have to answer, which is whether such an additional piece of legislation will improve the prospects of young people as they transition from one stage of their lives to another? Will they have a better experience? What is your assessment?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 22 February 2023
Stephen Kerr
That money is part of the Barnett consequentials—the adjustments—that come at the financial year end. Is that where it comes from?