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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 November 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

With regard to an immediate return, there may be a lot of good relationships and networking, but what about down the line? Are you expecting tens of millions of pounds, or hundreds of millions?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

To the bigger numbers—okay.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

It is a big moment for the Scottish economy.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

I think that it is roughly £1 billion a year.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

I want to come on to that, because we are spending roughly £1 billion a year, say, in that area. We may agree—I think that we kind of do—that productivity is the most important driver, but we have not seen, over the past 10 years and perhaps even longer, any remarkable improvement there. We see some economies around the world where there are tremendous leaps forward in national productivity but, in Scotland, although there is a little bit of improvement, we have not really covered ourselves in glory in that respect.

I want to ask you specifically, in relation to that, about the number of businesses that we have in Scotland. Over the past five years, the number of businesses in Scotland has actually fallen, by about 5 per cent. What do you put that down to?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

I am looking at it over a decade, which I think is a realistic purview of those sorts of statistics and dynamics.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

There are about 100 companies that drive things.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

Another way of saying that is that a high level of our businesses—about 99 point something per cent—are small and medium-sized enterprises. I hope that you can understand the point that I am trying to make, but you have spoken about the roughly £1 billion that we are spending every year, yet we are not making much progress with national productivity. There are challenges with business survival, and the bulk of people who work in our economy are working in private SMEs.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

I think that you will find that it may be the other way around, but we can swap data on that. My point is that SMEs play a very important role in the economy.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

Therein lies a clue as to why we are struggling to move the productivity needle. However, that is a Government priority—and I think that £100 million was committed to digital skills.