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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 June 2026
Stephen Kerr
That is great.
There are many other things to discuss, but I am conscious that I have taken up enough time.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 June 2026
Stephen Kerr
That would be true elsewhere as well, though.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 June 2026
Stephen Kerr
Again, thank you for the work that you do, which is invaluable to us in the Parliament. The letter that you wrote on 12 September 2025 to the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs is one of the most plainly distressing letters that I have read as a member of Parliament. You said that
“prisons stop being places of rehabilitation and become warehouses”.
That is pretty stark language. There is a lot of stark language in the letter, and I wish that we had more time to go over it with you, but, on this occasion, we do not.
I hope that I am not reading between the lines but, in the letter, you seem to be saying that just releasing prisoners early is not a sustainable solution, and you specifically call for a greater focus on the purpose of prison to reduce levels of reoffending.
What you and the convener have said is interesting. At the end of the letter you said that you were concerned that nothing much would happen between then and the election. You then talked about
“any solutions requiring legislative change after the election”.
In the letter, you alluded to the fact that you thought that there was a legislative gap. What did you have in mind that I am not getting from reading the letter?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 June 2026
Stephen Kerr
Does that data exist somewhere?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 June 2026
Stephen Kerr
Is it much worse than it used to be?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 June 2026
Stephen Kerr
You mentioned legislation and we had a discussion about it. Part of the Scottish Parliament’s function is to review legislation. Are there signs that the Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Act 2023 is helping, is it making things worse, or is it having no impact at all? What is your steer on that? The committee could look into it.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 June 2026
Stephen Kerr
Might post-legislative scrutiny be a fruitful area for us to look at?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 June 2026
Stephen Kerr
We do not have time to go through everything in the report, but one of the most alarming things in it for me is the mortality rate in our prisons. It would appear that, in Scotland, the probability that you might die if you go to prison is three or four times higher than it is in any other part of the United Kingdom. It seems hugely disproportionate, even given the challenges that you outlined in your report and in the letter that you wrote to the cabinet secretary in September. Is there something that we as a committee should be focused on that would alleviate the risks that exist for prisoners? Given that we have 790 deaths a year per 100,000 prisoners—that makes us the worst in Europe by a long chalk—there must be something that we can look at that would help us get to the root of it.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 June 2026
Stephen Kerr
It is the same for me. I have no relevant interests to declare.