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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 29 June 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

United Kingdom-European Union Summit

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Stephen Kerr

Oh, I see.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

United Kingdom-European Union Summit

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Stephen Kerr

But it could be.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

United Kingdom-European Union Summit

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Stephen Kerr

Because the UK defence sector is an enormous component of the total European defence sector, my understanding is that SAFE will be prioritised—that is what will be approached at pace, and something will be unveiled next year that will allow Britain a role in SAFE. That is why I am asking about the SPS and all the other aspects of the so-called agreement. I am not convinced that it is an agreement. It is three documents with lots of lovely aspirations set out in nice text.

Cabinet secretary, you are a long-term EU-phile and a close observer of the EU. Is it likely that nothing will be agreed until everything is agreed, or do you foresee us—I think this would go against how we know the European Union tends to operate—taking a sequential approach to all the elements that are listed, particularly in the “Common Understanding” document?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

United Kingdom-European Union Summit

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Stephen Kerr

Well, yes, but the full negotiation has not even begun, and the EU’s negotiating—

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

United Kingdom-European Union Summit

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Stephen Kerr

Yes, and I am mindful of that.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

United Kingdom-European Union Summit

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Stephen Kerr

Okay.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

United Kingdom-European Union Summit

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Stephen Kerr

This committee scrutinises the Scottish Government’s actions in relation to intergovernmental relations. The agreement that the UK Government and the European Union made on 19 May must have been a huge agenda item at the meeting of the council of the nations and regions—which includes John Swinney, the First Minister—on 23 May. Where are the minutes or the outcomes of that meeting, which would give us some detail to allow us to scrutinise the Scottish Government’s engagement with the UK Government? Were the things that you have protested about during this evidence session on the agenda? What was said? What was agreed between John Swinney and Keir Starmer? I am sure that the issue must have come up.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

United Kingdom-European Union Summit

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Stephen Kerr

Can we have a copy?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

United Kingdom-European Union Summit

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Stephen Kerr

Let us do that.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

United Kingdom-European Union Summit

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Stephen Kerr

Yes, but I want to know what was discussed in that regard and what resolutions or otherwise were reached between the First Minister and the Prime Minister.