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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 February 2026
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Kaukab Stewart

Dissatisfaction. However, it is not within my gift and control. It is also unfortunate that, in the short time that I have had here, I have not also been able to go into regulation 11, which I was able to use for the first time. I have not had the opportunity to discuss, or been asked about, the use of regulation 12. I have also not had the opportunity to talk about our mainstreaming toolkit. There are many areas that I have not been able to cover but that come under the inquiry and the public sector equality duty.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Kaukab Stewart

Respectfully, that is not within my scope. That is for the committee to decide.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Kaukab Stewart

I am sorry, but could you repeat that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Kaukab Stewart

Nick Bland can kick off and then I will come in.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Kaukab Stewart

I will bring Nick Bland in to comment on that.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Kaukab Stewart

I have thought about that very carefully. It is one of the reasons why we partnered with the STV children’s appeal to distribute the funding, because that organisation already has well-established links and it supports a wide range of organisations. Often, they are very small projects that are based in local community centres. They may hold drop-in coffee mornings or offer sports opportunities. They may offer knit and natter meetings, dancing workshops or arts and crafts. They do all sorts of things. That is not an exhaustive description, but it gives you a flavour of what some of those local groups do. Some are run by two or three people, while other organisations are bigger.

For the organisations that provide those spaces, a little extra money goes a long way. It may pay for bookings in community centres, it may pay for the teas and coffees, or it may pay for staff training so that people can have constructive conversations about issues that are causing tensions within communities. That means that people can discuss those concerns in a constructive manner with people who can support them through that, using a trauma-informed approach. The safe spaces already exist, so this is about enhancing funding for them.

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I am very cognisant that brilliant work is already happening. However, because of the additional challenges that we are facing in fostering good relations in the community cohesion space, the extra funding was required in order to enhance those opportunities and provide more. We are talking about bringing people together so that they can speak to one another and communicate. We know that, the more people get to know one other, the more we dispel the myths and break down the barriers. We can deal with misinformation and disinformation and get into the heart of the communities where people are having those conversations.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Kaukab Stewart

I am going to stick with the protocol of the Scottish Government; I am not going to make any comment on any proceedings that are in court.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Kaukab Stewart

The fund that you are referring to supports 47 organisations. It is important to emphasise that. We have previously engaged with LGBT Youth Scotland to determine the facts around various media reports. What you are referring to now and what you are presenting to me I have no way of fact checking in live time. It is an organisation that has been in the spotlight and it gets a lot of attention. I have visited the organisation, I have spoken to the users of that organisation, and I have seen first hand the good work that it is doing in supporting young people in various ways. As a constituency MSP, I have also had communications from parents who have been grateful for the work that the organisation has done in increasing awareness, supporting parents, and supporting youngsters. There is a wide variety of work that is going on there.

I have been assured that LGBT Youth Scotland has strengthened its safeguarding policies to ensure that they are in line with legislation and that they meet the national standards. It continues to review those policies annually to make sure that they are as comprehensive as possible.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Kaukab Stewart

My answer to that is that I am very much in line with the EHRC on this. We know that robust, good-quality data is important. We know that because we shape our services around that data. We can forward plan based on it and allocate funding. There are lots of good reasons for having that data so absolutely, we need to do that.

We also need to remember that, for the data that we collect, there have to be good reasons for doing so, because people have to offer that data. Nobody could force any one of us in this room to declare anything about ourselves that we do not wish to. When I have filled in the additional forms that go along with recruitment processes, for instance, I know that, on occasion, I possibly have not filled in the bit about which ethnic minority you belong to. We need to make sure that people are engaged in relation to giving their data and know and have confidence that their data will be used appropriately and proportionately for the purpose for which it is collected. That is what I am saying on that just now. I do not know if there is anything else that officials would like to add.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Kaukab Stewart

I get what you are saying. We have policing by consent, and I am very pleased that we take that approach through community police officers. As an MSP, in representing Glasgow city centre and Kelvin, I have extensive contact with local police representatives, so I have the opportunity to raise the concerns of my constituents, who sometimes raise the concerns that you have raised. The police are covered by the public sector equality duty, so they must fulfil their duties by having due regard for such issues. Police Scotland is, of course, totally independent.

I will bring in Nick Bland.