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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 28 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Kaukab Stewart

The research has been referred to a few times, and I will spend a few minutes digging further into that.

You have made it clear that no decision has been made and that you have commissioned research from CELCIS. Please quickly explain the background reasons for commissioning that research. What is the timeline for that, and how does it fit into the progress of the bill?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Kaukab Stewart

I understand and respect that. I just think that it would be useful for the committee to hear from the perspective of a young person, with their voice, about a real-life example, as that would give a good illustration of their experience of the service. That is why I was keen to get an example.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you for that response, as it leads me neatly to some questions for Mr Stewart.

It has been pointed out—rightly—that the committee has already had two evidence-taking sessions in which we heard from a variety of stakeholders and service providers. Can you provide us with any evidence that you have received from advocacy groups during your own consultation processes or give some examples from the lived experience that you have heard of services not having been as good as they could have been for certain young people?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Kaukab Stewart

We have the evidence from service providers and stakeholders about the services that they provide, but I want to be able to cross-check that with the real experience of the recipients of those services. That is the area that I was exploring. I am happy for Mr Stewart to come back on that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Kaukab Stewart

That is grand. We would be happy to get those figures.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Kaukab Stewart

Yes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Kaukab Stewart

Just about.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you very much for that detailed response, Nicky.

Louise, would you like to come back in?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Kaukab Stewart

Good morning, and welcome, everyone. The Public Bodies (Joint Working) (Scotland) Act 2014 aimed to better integrate the health and social care systems in Scotland through integration authorities. How does integration work in your local area currently? What are some of the advantages and disadvantages of the model that is adopted in your area? I am aware that there are two different models. Everybody will probably need to provide an answer. I ask Ross McGuffie to start.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you for that, Ross.

Before I bring in the other panellists, I will ask the next part of my question. How much money do your individual areas spend on children’s services, and how has that funding changed over the past decade? Can you give me a comparison with any changes that there might have been in outcomes for young people? In short, I am asking about the money that has been spent and the impact on the outcomes.

Louise, could you respond first?