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Yes—of course we collect data. The public sector equality duty places the duty of data collection on bodies that provide services, and age is one of the data sets that we collect. The challenges, of course, include addressing depopulation, which is part of my portfolio. I have visited areas across Scotland that are suffering from depopulation and I see the impacts that that can have on what are often very small communities, where even losing one family can have a significant effect. Age is important across the board, from how many youngsters we have right through to the ageing population.

We know that Scotland has an ageing population. That brings additional challenges in areas such as health and social care, transport and independent living. It also reaches into other areas, such as the provision of social security safety nets and the need to address fuel poverty and look at accessible housing. It all fits together, and data is important in that regard. However, we must remember that data is people and we cannot just go by numbers. Sometimes you cannot extrapolate a trend because the data set is quite small. Therefore, we need to be aware of the demographic challenges and people’s lived experience through hearing about that via community engagement.

I do not know whether Anna Densham has anything further to add on the specifics of data collection. Please feel free to comment if you think that I have missed anything, Anna.

We do collect data.

We absolutely recognise that the pressure on household budgets is enormous. The 2025–26 budget continued to allocate £3 billion a year to policies that tackle poverty and the cost of living. I absolutely get that there will be more of an impact in rural areas, where there are additional and unique cost of living pressures compared to those in urban areas.

One example is the expansion of affordable childcare. There is also improving access to essential services and supporting rural wage growth through investment in diverse industries and skills. With regard to childcare in particular, which has an intersection with my portfolio through the addressing depopulation plan that sits with me, we are investing huge amounts of money—almost £1 billion a year—to fully fund the 1,140 hours of childcare offer, and the costs of provision in rural areas are absolutely considered in the funding formula.

As part of the addressing depopulation fund, six or seven regions had a certain amount of money—I think that it was £30,000 initially. That money was and is being used—I have visited projects that are using it—and the areas get to decide what the local need is. Some areas have decided to prioritise childcare provision. One size does not fit all, so that might not involve a nursery, because there simply might not be enough children, so then you need childminders. Childminders have the additional burden of getting certification, getting their house ready and being able to match up with families—they need to get all that sorted.

We are supporting work across the country in which specific people now have the role of providing bespoke services. We know that even providing one part-time childminder can have a significant effect through enabling a nurse or shop worker to go to work to provide those services. That is a very practical measure, and the feedback on it has been good. Each local area has been able to decide what its priorities are. In contrast, some areas have decided to invest further in skills and retaining young people in the local area, so there is a variety.

The regional enterprise agencies work closely with partners to address equality of opportunity around housing, transport and so on. The regional growth deal rural projects are there to accelerate inclusive economic growth. I can get further information on that from the relevant cabinet secretary or minister. Generally, growing the economy is one of our top priorities, and regional economic partnerships are key to delivering that and to delivering effective regional decision making.

We are also trying to promote the social tariff. We get that it will not help every person, but we think that it will go a long way to help to deal with fuel poverty and high fuel costs. Those can be challenging for disabled households that need to have more appliances on, but even more so for those in a rural area, perhaps in the Highlands, where it is colder. You can see all the layers that are piling on, but I hope that I have given a couple of examples.

Yes. Through our addressing depopulation fund, those are exactly the type of barriers that people are working locally to address. For instance, they work with local authority applications to get all the standards checked. It is down to the nitty-gritty of supporting people in situ. That should help with exactly that situation.

Yes.

Absolutely—thank you.

That is a good question. I have said on the record to the committee previously that I take seriously my responsibilities as Minister for Equalities to promote mainstreaming and provide support and challenge to my colleagues at Cabinet and ministerial level. I think that I have maybe just one or two colleagues who, due to diary commitments, I have not yet met, but that shows the extent of the progress that I have made since I first appeared in front of the committee to say that that is what I was promoting.

That has allowed me to get an overarching view of the connections across portfolios and to highlight those connections to my colleagues. Colleagues are very much aware of the cross-cutting themes. When I am trying to promote equality impact assessments and to raise their quality and embed them, that has helped a great deal. It has enabled me to not only look at overarching policy but to inform my colleagues so that, when they make decisions, they are considering those issues early on and bearing in mind all the cross-cutting themes such as housing. I have had good conversations with the cabinet secretaries responsible for rural areas such as the Highlands and Islands to highlight the mainstreaming agenda.

I hope that that gives the committee reassurance that that work has progressed very well. We should remember that this our first time doing this, so we are doing things differently.

Our response to the SHRC was issued in May. We appreciate the work that the SHRC does and welcome its spotlight approach in raising the issues. The report clearly demonstrates the importance of all levels of government sustaining progress to advance people’s experience of human rights in rural and island communities. Our response, which we issued in May, outlined the breadth of work that was already under way across the areas that were raised in the report. Our response also set out the actions that we are taking, or are planning to take, on each of the report’s eight recommendations.

As I said in my opening remarks, I fully accept that there is more work to be done, but we are committed to working collaboratively across the public sector to ensure that we achieve our aim of making sure that everybody, regardless of where they live, has their human rights respected and fulfilled.

I know that the SHRC called for all relevant duty bearers to pay heed to its report, and we echo and fully support that call. People should be cognisant of it in designing and delivering public services for our rural communities. We will continue to work constructively with the SHRC, and other stakeholders, on the issues that were raised in the report and, more importantly, to implement the changes that are necessary to ensure further progress.

It was both. Part of my responsibility is to remind, support and challenge regarding the Equality Act 2010 and our public sector equality duty. We were able to discuss some issues that had been raised with me.

As I said, I fully recognise the distinct challenges that those living in rural areas sometimes face. I particularly recognise that intersectionality can often add a layer of inaccessibility. There is a disproportionate impact in the examples that you have given, and across other protected characteristics. It would be the same for ethnic minorities and disabled people, for instance. I am mindful of that, and the cabinet secretary is very mindful of it, too.

Meaningful engagement with rural stakeholders and communities at an early stage of policy development is absolutely vital. We continue to encourage engagement with rural and island communities across relevant portfolio and policy areas to understand their specific experiences of the issues in their localities—which of course can vary—in order to be able to develop a more flexible and localised approach to delivery. That includes engagement through the Scottish Rural Network and direct consultation with island communities on the new national islands plan.

The islands community impact assessment and the rural assessment toolkit, which was launched in April, encourage that in a systematic way, supporting access to specific islands and rural data and offering channels for engagement where they do not already exist.

If you would like more information on that, I am happy to bring in Anna Densham. Before I hand over, though, I will just agree with your point about the vital role that third sector organisations play. I could not have said it better myself. Third sector organisations are essential. They know their communities. I am aware that around 34 per cent of voluntary organisations are based in rural and remote locations, despite only about 21 per cent of the Scottish population living in those areas. That demonstrates how important they are in those communities, and we absolutely value the essential role that they play. We acknowledge that the sector needs support, stability and the opportunity for longer-term planning. Anna Densham can give you more detail.