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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 27 December 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Elena Whitham

You mentioned public procurement, which is a hobby-horse of mine, so I want to explore that aspect a bit further. If we think about the landscape just now, we have pockets of really good work that has been done to push the envelope on public procurement in thinking about community empowerment and community wealth building; indeed, we will be debating the Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill at stage 1 later today. However, while we see those pockets of good work, we also see that things can change on a dime when a tendering package has been put forward: the cost is what wins it, rather than the idea of having due regard to sustainable development and wellbeing.

Is it your intention to ensure that public procurement also reflects the aims of the bill, so that, where we see progress being made—with positive proactive decisions supporting local businesses and creating a thriving economy in an area—we do not start to slip back because, for example, a big multinational that is not thinking about sustainability can undercut those businesses?

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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Elena Whitham

When you developed your bill, what lessons from the experience in Wales did you draw on?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Elena Whitham

You mentioned the national performance framework. The committee has heard views that the existing duties that are placed on public bodies through the NPF and related legislation are too weak. Do you agree with that assertion?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Elena Whitham

Since your bill was introduced, Audit Wales has assessed that the Well-being of Future Generations (Wales) Act 2015—we are now a decade down the line—has been

“changing conversations, influencing longer-term planning, and impacting day-to-day decision-making and working practices”,

but has not yet driven

“the system-wide change that was intended”.

We are looking for the golden thread of how to get policy coherence and deliver on wellbeing and sustainable development. How would your bill achieve the system-wide changes that we are looking for?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Elena Whitham

In taking evidence, the committee has heard overwhelming support for the policy objectives that are set out in the bill, including the one about policy coherence for sustainable development. We have also heard some witnesses say that those objectives could be met without a change in the law. How do you respond to that assertion?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Elena Whitham

We have pockets of really good practice in Scotland, too. We might think of the moves that have been made in North Ayrshire with community solar farms and energy generation, for example. In the absence of a commissioner and legislation, would we just continue to have some pockets of good practice where public bodies have regard to sustainability and wellbeing in their local area? Could a revised national performance framework and revised national outcomes drive that change? Do you really believe that we need to have it in legislation?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Elena Whitham

We heard in evidence from the Scottish Government that it is reviewing the national outcomes and the national performance framework. It believes that what it will set out will help to deliver what you are trying to deliver with your bill. Is it possible that the Government will be able to achieve those aims with a review of the national performance framework and the national outcomes?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Elena Whitham

I want to explore that a bit further. Have you had any conversations with National Records of Scotland or Public Health Scotland about their interpretation of the data that is collected on a death certificate? I am thinking about Brian Whittle’s point. For example, if there were a cluster of a certain type of cancer in an area, would the information that would pertain follow through, in terms of its being recorded as the primary or secondary cause of death on the death certificate? Have you had any interaction with those bodies to understand how that information is used?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Elena Whitham

I have a query further to the point that Mr Whittle raised in relation to malicious intervention. If amendment 189 was agreed to, how do you foresee that a case in which someone asked for a review would proceed? That process could open up information about the deceased person’s medical history that they might not have wanted the individual who requested a review to know. They might not have had a loving relationship with that individual. What safeguarding would be put in that would respect the deceased person’s wishes?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Elena Whitham

Will the member give way?