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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Energy Price Rises

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Elena Whitham

Yes—that scheme has been operational for 90 years.

I want to contrast that with the very complex system that we have in the UK, which relies heavily on gas. Today, Sky News has reported that we are in the perverse situation of having a glut of gas in the UK, because we cannot get it to market. The pipes to supply liquid gas to Europe are at full capacity and we have no storage in the system. We have infrastructure and pipeline issues.

Given that the wholesale price has bottomed out, it seems perverse that people are going to be paying huge amounts for their electricity and their gas during the coming months. It seems as though the system is not responding in real time to what we are seeing on the ground. How would you respond to that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Energy Price Rises

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Elena Whitham

Thank you, cabinet secretary.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Energy Price Rises

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Elena Whitham

It might be very helpful for the committee.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Energy Price Rises

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Elena Whitham

Yes. We have the ports and the pipelines to get the liquid gas to where it needs to be, but the system is operating at full capacity and we have no storage capacity.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Energy Price Rises

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Elena Whitham

Thank you for allowing me to appear at the committee with my Social Justice and Social Security Committee hat on.

We have already heard about the Canadian model of hydroelectricity. As someone who grew up in Canada, I could not fail to understand that. The Galloway hydroelectric scheme in my constituency is fed in part by Loch Doon. It was built back in 1930 and has been happily supplying environmentally friendly electricity—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Energy Price Rises

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Elena Whitham

The fact that the glut of gas that we have at the moment is not reflected in the prices being paid by people who cannot afford to top up their meters must be very hard for them to swallow.

My final question, which is one that I have asked previous witnesses in the past few weeks, is about disaggregated gender data. I recognise that you might not be able to provide an answer. The likes of Engender and Close the Gap have said in evidence to the Social Justice and Social Security Committee that fuel poverty is very much a gendered issue.

Women who are predominantly lone parents, carers or in precarious employment are facing the worst consequences of the cost of fuel crisis. What data does the Scottish Government hold on gender, and how is it being used to create the policy in response to fuel poverty? I understand that you might not be able to answer that question today, but the committee would certainly be keen to hear your response.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Low Income and Debt Inquiry

Meeting date: 12 May 2022

Elena Whitham

Sarah-Jayne Dunn and Anne Baldock want to come in. I ask them to be very brief, because we are 25 minutes into the session and only two members have asked questions.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Low Income and Debt Inquiry

Meeting date: 12 May 2022

Elena Whitham

Go ahead, as long as it is quick.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Low Income and Debt Inquiry

Meeting date: 12 May 2022

Elena Whitham

Thanks, Anne.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Low Income and Debt Inquiry

Meeting date: 12 May 2022

Elena Whitham

Thank you, Jeremy. Foysol Choudhury joins us online.