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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 July 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Low Income and Debt Inquiry

Meeting date: 19 May 2022

Elena Whitham

Thank you. That was a great way to end, because there is good practice across local authorities, but that involves them choosing where they use their budgets locally, and it cannot be applied across the board. That is a good point for the committee to reflect on.

I thank everybody for their evidence. It was a marathon session and it is evidence that we needed to hear. If you have anything that you want to follow up with us, please feel free to do that in writing, as we are moving towards the conclusion of the inquiry. I hope that you enjoy the rest of your day.

11:09 Meeting continued in private until 11:31.  

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Low Income and Debt Inquiry

Meeting date: 19 May 2022

Elena Whitham

There is some evidence of good practice across the country, with some housing officers becoming neighbourhood coaches—that coaching model is a different way of operating. Also universal credit teams are being set up that are proactively going out into communities and in some areas, as Karen Carrick said before, financial inclusion officers are based within school clusters. That is making a massive difference. A lot of good work is being done that needs to be passported across the country, and we need to think about the role that this committee could play in that.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Low Income and Debt Inquiry

Meeting date: 19 May 2022

Elena Whitham

Paul Ferguson has indicated that he wants to come in.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Low Income and Debt Inquiry

Meeting date: 19 May 2022

Elena Whitham

That is all right; do not worry about it. Paul McLennan, do you have further questions?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Low Income and Debt Inquiry

Meeting date: 19 May 2022

Elena Whitham

That segues nicely on to questions about school meal debts. To kick us off, we will take a question from Foysol Choudhury.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Low Income and Debt Inquiry

Meeting date: 19 May 2022

Elena Whitham

Before I move to questions from my colleague Pam Duncan-Glancy, I see that Martin Canavan and Betty Stone would both like to come in. I must ask you to keep your comments brief at this point.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Low Income and Debt Inquiry

Meeting date: 19 May 2022

Elena Whitham

Do you want to come in on that, Betty?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Low Income and Debt Inquiry

Meeting date: 19 May 2022

Elena Whitham

That reminds me of the fact that councils hold a lot of data and information. There is a need for them to passport where a family is eligible to receive another payment, whether it is school meals or other things. We need to make sure that councils do that as well, because they hold that data.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Low Income and Debt Inquiry

Meeting date: 19 May 2022

Elena Whitham

On the point about people with no recourse to public funds, it will probably benefit the committee if we can get an update on the anti-destitution strategy that is being worked on between COSLA and others.

We move on with some questions from Miles Briggs.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 19 May 2022

Elena Whitham

Good morning and welcome to the 16th meeting in 2022 of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee. Our first item of business is to decide whether to take item 3 in private. Are we content to do so?

Members indicated agreement.