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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 July 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Decisions on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 3 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Our second agenda item is another decision on taking business in private. Are we agreed to discuss our work programme in private at future meetings?

Members indicated agreement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Programme

Meeting date: 3 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Agenda item 3 is our main item of business. On 15 September, we were due to hear from the Auditor General for Scotland about Audit Scotland’s report on the implementation of the social security programme and its annual audit report on Social Security Scotland. That session was postponed, and we have rescheduled the session.

I welcome Stephen Boyle, the Auditor General for Scotland, and Kirsty Ridd, the audit manager at Audit Scotland. We will be discussing themes around transparency and accountability, agile approaches, workforce, implementation costs, the remaining work and the key risks ahead of us.

Stephen and Kirsty, please wait a few seconds for broadcasting to turn on your microphones before answering questions. I ask members to direct their questions to Stephen, who will bring in Kirsty as needed.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Programme

Meeting date: 3 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Before I bring in Paul McLennan, who has another question, I will pick up on something that you said, Auditor General. I take you back to the Scottish Fiscal Commission’s comments on data gaps, which we have touched on. The issue is how we will understand whether policy implementation has realised the intended outcome. Our committee’s concern is about the missing pieces of data. How will we know whether the policy has achieved its objective if we do not have robust data, which is what we are being told? I am sorry to bring us back to that topic, but we are quite focused on it.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Programme

Meeting date: 3 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Thank you, Auditor General. I thank you both for attending quite early on a Monday morning and helping us to facilitate this rescheduled meeting. That was very helpful. If there is anything that you need to follow up in writing, please do so. You can leave the meeting by pressing the wee red telephone button up in the corner of the screen when you are ready to do so.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2022

Elena Whitham

I will close the public part of the meeting. I invite committee members to move into private session. Members are invited to join the private meeting via the link provided.

09:57 Meeting continued in private until 10:07.  

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Programme

Meeting date: 3 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Pam, did you want to come back in on this theme?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Elena Whitham

Welcome back. The next item of business is the second of our pre-budget scrutiny sessions. Our scrutiny focuses on the resource spending review and its impact on poverty, as well as the forthcoming equalities and fairer Scotland budget statement.

This week, we will hear from two panels. I welcome to the meeting the first of those: Danny Boyle, senior parliamentary and policy officer at BEMIS, and Graham O’Neill, policy manager at the Scottish Refugee Council. Thank you both for joining us remotely today.

I have a few housekeeping points to make before we kick off. If you wait for our broadcasting colleagues to turn your microphone on before you start to speak, that will be helpful. The screen is in front of me so, if you want to come in on a point, please type R in the chat box or wave at me. There are only two of you, so it will be quite easy for me to keep track. We have approximately 50 minutes for this panel. I will invite members to come in in turn. If members direct their question to one of the two witnesses to kick us off, that will be helpful.

Our first theme is about the impact of the rising cost of living. To start us off, I will bring in the deputy convener, Natalie Don.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Elena Whitham

Good morning, and welcome to the 24th meeting in 2022 of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee.

Our first item of business is a decision on whether to take items 4 and 5 in private. Do members agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Savings and Reductions 2022-23

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Elena Whitham

We move to a theme that we have already touched on: concessionary fares and transport costs.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Elena Whitham

I thank both witnesses for setting out the reality on the ground as it is at the moment and your concerns for the future.

I will bring in Jeremy Balfour.