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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 February 2026
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Meeting of the Parliament

UK Covid-19 Inquiry

Meeting date: 31 January 2024

Stephanie Callaghan

No, I will not.

We should let the inquiry get on with its work, as we have heard. We should act accordingly when the recommendations are released and be prepared to accept any criticisms and suggestions for improvement. I trust that the inquiry will also recognise the efforts and achievements of the Scottish Government and the people of Scotland in tackling the pandemic and that it will identify strengths as well as weaknesses and draw together future lessons and implications.

The Covid-19 pandemic is not over yet. We are still living with the virus, and we still face uncertainties and challenges ahead. We need to remain vigilant and adaptable and must continue to follow the public health guidance and advice. We need to support each other and look after ourselves, showing kindness and compassion to those who have been affected by the pandemic, because grieving families are at the absolute heart of this and it has affected all of us.

The Scottish Government must continue to do everything in its power to protect the health and lives of people in Scotland and to support the recovery and renewal of our society and economy, and it must remain transparent and accountable to the public and strive to engage and involve people in the decision-making process. Co-operation and collaboration with other UK nations and the international community will also remain key as we continue to contribute to the global fight against the pandemic. Let us focus where we should be focusing.

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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Stephanie Callaghan

Thanks, everyone, for joining us. We have already heard a bit about tolerable risk. Phil Diamond spoke about the fact that probably 60 per cent of the 7,000 buildings that are in scope in Scotland fall into that category.

My question is directed at Jim McGonigal, first. We have heard about the calls for the bill and associated guidance to better reflect the idea of tolerable risk rather than just high risk, and that measures could include the use of alternatives to cladding replacement that have similar fire safety benefits. Would you support that approach, Jim, and how might it work in practice? I am happy for anyone else to come in after that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Stephanie Callaghan

That is really helpful.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Stephanie Callaghan

You said that people do not need to have that qualification, so my question was also about how you identify who has those skills. Maybe that question could get rolled in as we go on.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Stephanie Callaghan

Do you have anything to add to that, John Marr? Do any of the other panel members have different views? If you do, I would be interested to hear them.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Stephanie Callaghan

I have only one more question, actually, convener.

In its written evidence, the Law Society was keen for greater detail to be included in the bill on the responsible developers scheme and on the cladding assurance register. Do you want to say a bit more on that? Do you have any comments on risks? Are there any recommendations that you would like the committee to make to the Government, for example?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Stephanie Callaghan

I am the MSP for the Uddingston and Bellshill constituency in Lanarkshire.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Stephanie Callaghan

Gary Strong, on the point that you just made that people have to be competent to do that work, how would you go about defining competence if someone does not have that qualification? You have not had many people applying for the course. Would it be better to target the course at the type of people who have been most interested in it?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Stephanie Callaghan

Do you have any concerns about the costs and timescales for remediation work?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Stephanie Callaghan

Do you have any reflections on some of the comments that were made by the earlier panel on having flexibility and using secondary legislation rather than having to go back and change primary legislation?