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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 March 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

SAF might be more expensive as the technology is developed but, as it is used more, the price should come down.

We cannot not do this; we need to do whatever we can to drive down emissions from aviation. If SAF is more expensive for a period of time, the airlines will work out what that means for their businesses and how they will manage it.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

Going back to your point about island connectivity, I would point out that the almost £30 million investment from SNIB and Scottish Enterprise in ZeroAvia is not about SAF but about other technologies. We are already looking at what those technologies are and what they can do for Scotland.

I reiterate my ambition—which is your ambition, too—for Scotland to be at the forefront of all of this. We have to accept that this is a reserved area, but I will certainly be pushing as hard as I can to make sure that we get as much out of it as we possibly can.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

The SAF working group was put into abeyance as a result of project willow. We are now having a conversation about whether to stand it up again so that it can look specifically at SAF. We are still discussing that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

I will bring in Terry Shevlin to speak about the technical sides of that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

I am happy for people to be connected. I very much believe that we will find the technological answers. There was an example of that when I attended the—I have forgotten the name of it. I am trying to think of the name of the airline in Edinburgh airport that has introduced the new route to Dubai. Terry Shevlin, can you remind me?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

It will be delighted, given that I have been to see it twice. Emirates has designed a plane that has wings that come in at a certain level. It is a wee bit like a falcon when it is swooping—it pulls its wings in so that it has less drag. It sounds like a silly wee thing, but that is just drag that is using up more fuel. The technology, including the technologies involved in the fuels that we are using, will help us to drive down emissions, because everybody is making a concerted effort to do so. Do I want to cut connectivity? I would think that, if I were to ask my colleagues in the tourism sector whether they wanted to cut connectivity, the answer would be no. It is not about stopping people from flying; it is about ensuring that we use all the technologies and abilities that we have to allow us to continue to fly but to bring emissions down.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Jim Fairlie

Thank you, convener, and good morning.

Thank you for inviting me to speak to the draft Free-Range Poultrymeat Marketing Standards (Amendment) (Scotland) Regulations 2025. This draft instrument amends European Commission regulation 543/2008, on the marketing standards for poultry meat, with regard to the 12-week derogation period that is allowed in the event of a housing order being implemented. The EC regulation lays down provisions relating to the “free range” farming method, in which, in order to classify as free-range poultry meat, the birds must have continuous daytime access to open air runs. At present, the poultry meat marketing standards regulations allow a derogation for poultry meat to be marketed as free range for only the first 12 weeks of any housing order that is introduced. Following that, the labelling of poultry meat cannot refer to “free range” and must be changed. The instrument that we are discussing will remove that 12-week limit and allow free-range producers to label the meat as such for the full duration of a housing order.

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You might remember that, last year, we amended the egg marketing standards regulations by removing the 16-week derogation so that eggs could continue to be marketed as free range, regardless of how long hens had been housed under temporary housing restrictions. This instrument amends the regulations for free-range poultry meat in the same way, ensuring a consistent approach across the free-range poultry meat and free-range egg sectors.

Members will be aware from the committee papers that the United Kingdom Government and the Scottish Government consulted on this jointly, and the results of that consultation show that the removal of the 12-week limit on the derogation is the preferred route for the industry. There were 79 responses in favour of the change, including from a significant Scottish poultry meat producer that is part of the main supply chain.

Although the sector in Scotland is evolving as a result of recent investment, with a current capacity of around 4.8 million birds across poultry meat farms, there are currently no commercial free-range poultry production premises in Scotland. Nevertheless, in progressing with this change, we will be in line with the rest of the UK, and the move will also future proof the legislation and perhaps, through reducing costs during housing orders, provide an incentive for any potential Scottish free-range poultry meat producer to commercially produce free-range chicken in Scotland. Not making the changes could further disincentivise any future free-range poultry meat production in Scotland, because of the additional requirements, and costs, during housing orders.

Outbreaks of avian flu in recent years have unfortunately required housing orders to be put in place in the UK. In 2021 and 2022, they covered the whole of the UK, when they were extended to 22 weeks, thereby exceeding the derogation periods for poultry meat and eggs. In 2022 and 2023, England, Wales and Northern Ireland put in place a 23-week housing order, which also exceeded the derogation periods. Although the current risk of avian influenza in poultry is low, it is expected that the UK might face outbreaks of the virus in the future. As such, a long-term approach to the issue is the most practical route to take, and, as I have mentioned, it is important that we keep the sectors consistent.

In essence, the proposed change is small but practical in allowing poultry meat to be labelled as “free range” for the full duration of the housing orders that are put in place for the birds’ health and welfare. Current legislation already allows that to happen for a substantial period of 12 weeks.

I hope that those remarks are helpful in setting out the rationale for the instrument, and I am happy to answer members’ questions.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Jim Fairlie

Other supermarkets are available.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Jim Fairlie

The same principle will apply. If someone wants to market their product as free range because that suits their business model and it is the kind of model that they work in, they would have exactly the same concerns as anyone else. If they want to continue to sell a free-range product when there is a housing order, it is in their best interests to ensure that their consumers know that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Jim Fairlie

Even if a housing order were in place, they would not be able to apply for free-range status unless they had all the other things in place that they would need to have in place to be a free-range producer. They would not be registered as a free-range producer at that point.