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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Jim Fairlie

I will keep referring back to when I was on this committee. I have a friend who has rescued greyhounds over a number of years and, when this was first raised, I contacted him and asked him what the reality is in Scotland. He sent me this response and if you do not mind, convener, I will read it out. These are his words not mine:

“My greyhounds were all rescues, failed racers. However, I did race them with great success and I add all were kept until the day they died and are buried here”—

the place that he lived.

“Jim, the dogs love racing. It is just the same as dogs doing agility or flyball. As usual, the fault is with owners and perversely, although the flapping owners get the worst press, they are actually not the main problem. Many of them keep their retired dogs on as pets as they have a bond with their dog. The main problem is the professionals. These are the dogs discarded as if they are of no use. Owners only turn up on race night. They just want to own a winner.”

That touches on the point that Elena Whitham made. He continued:

“They will not pay a trainer to keep what they describe as a pot-licker and trainers have a reputation to build and that can only be done with winners. These are the people who want to get rid of poor quality dogs. A big problem is with far too many dogs being bred in Ireland, poor conditions, backstreet vets, and bitches who are just money-making machines. That, mind you, goes on in this country in puppy farms of all breeds, not just greyhounds.”

That was his response to my question after we had the session in this committee.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Jim Fairlie

You have hit the nail on the head there. I am open to evidence and having these conversations. We will watch your member’s bill very closely as it comes through and, as I said, the consideration about licensing is on-going. We are not saying that we have dismissed the matter and will not think about it any more. At this stage, however, we do not think that a ban is proportionate in terms of what we are looking at for the track that we are talking about.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Jim Fairlie

The Government has not looked in detail at the banned substances side of this—we have not done that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Jim Fairlie

No. Not at this moment.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Jim Fairlie

Was the comment that you received about the GBGB tracks?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Jim Fairlie

No. What I am saying is that at the independent track the two things should go hand in hand. It is not a case of one being more important than the other. I think that the two balance together. There are good opportunities for socialising and social interaction, which is important, but that should not be at the cost of welfare standards for the dogs that are running there.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Jim Fairlie

Yes, I do.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Jim Fairlie

I am happy to be proven wrong if evidence comes forward to do so.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Jim Fairlie

If you do not mind, convener, I will first make an opening statement about the current position in Scotland. Are you happy with that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Jim Fairlie

The Animal Health and Welfare (Scotland) Act 2006 has at its very core the point that animal welfare conditions must be met for all animals—that includes greyhounds in Scotland. As I said in my opening statement, my understanding of what happens at Thornton is that it is an entirely different beast from what is happening at the highly charged atmospheres of the tracks down south, which are about betting and gambling and dogs as commodities rather than what we understand about Thornton, where the dogs are as much part of the family and family pets as they are for racing. The welfare conditions of the dogs at Thornton is an entirely different thing from what we are talking about in relation to the professional tracks down south.