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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 November 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Jim Fairlie

My understanding of the difference in risk is the intensity, the professionalism and the requirement for what people are getting out of it. As I stated, there is a high demand for winners. People want to own winners at the GBGB tracks. The racing is highly competitive, there is a lot of money involved and the sport is driven by the financial aspects and prestige. At Thornton, as I understand it, the dogs are largely family-owned pets and the requirement or the determination to win is not as great, nor is it the fundamental reason why they are kept.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Jim Fairlie

It will not make any difference at all to a dog.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Jim Fairlie

That is part of our consideration of what a licence would look like for an unregulated track in Scotland. I think that we heard from Paul Brignal that their vet was literally five minutes down the road and that they had a relationship with him. I am not sure if that is entirely satisfactory in relation to what the requirements should be, but it will certainly be part of what we will consider if we go down the route of requiring that track to have a licence.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Jim Fairlie

I would agree with that assertion, yes.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Jim Fairlie

Yes, potentially, and if they are racing at GBGB tracks down south—if that is the point that you are making—GBGB is looking at what it will do about that. However, I take your point about rehoming dogs that have been kennelled and are not suitably socialised.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Jim Fairlie

We have not considered it at this stage. We are looking at it potentially as part of our whole approach to licensing.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Jim Fairlie

It is to alleviate people’s concerns about the fact that the track is currently unlicensed. We have heard evidence from Paul Brignal that the SSPCA has never been called. I presume that the argument from Mark Ruskell—and, indeed, we have had this conversation—would be this: why would somebody phone the SSPCA, given that it is part of the system? If there is somebody who is independent, and who is not there for the racing, can go to the track, that might help alleviate some of the concerns about what happens at a dog track.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Jim Fairlie

I go back to the point that I am making a differentiation between the kind of racing happening at Thornton and the kind of racing happening at highly professional GBGB tracks. If we bring in a licensing scheme, that will allow us to monitor exactly what is happening in Thornton and if, at a later date, we need to take away that licence because of welfare issues, we could do that. However, that decision would have to be proportionate in terms of what we have talked about earlier in relation to the welfare and social aspects of racing for the people who do it. There is a question of proportionality, but licensing allows us to have a better oversight of what is happening.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Jim Fairlie

We stopped sending children up chimneys because it was, ultimately, bad for them.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Jim Fairlie

Would you like us to consider a licensing scheme for putting children up chimneys? I do not see the analogy.