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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 September 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jim Fairlie

The financial memorandum is what could happen, not what will happen. From my point of view, it shows the worst-case scenario that we might end up with.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jim Fairlie

NatureScot has already written to you with some examples. I will give you some, too, but you will have to bear with me, as I have a lot in front of me.

There are specific scenarios in the central belt, where we have a peri-urban setting. The aim is to seek assurance that longer-term deer management measures are in place to help deliver 30 by 30, nature networks and landscape-scale restoration projects, examples of which include the seven lochs wetland park and the climate forest project areas. The central belt has a mix of agriculture and small woodlands on the edge of a wider open upland space, with a dispersed population in many small settlements that are close to major conurbations. That would include major trunk roads and the Campsie fells, for example; we also have rainforests.

You will get the examples in the letter. I could sit here and read it all out to you, but that would be a waste of your time and mine. You have a pretty well-documented letter from NatureScot that gives you a lot of the examples that you are looking for.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jim Fairlie

The code of practice will be developed and a lot of this will be fed into it. It goes back to the whole point of this, which is for us all to work together to find positive outcomes. All of that will feed into the code of practice.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jim Fairlie

You are right that the code of practice is important, but it would not be feasible for us to do that work on the code of practice before we get to stage 3. We can work on stuff at the moment, but I am afraid that a final code of practice will have to be delivered later.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jim Fairlie

Whatever develops with the follow-on work, there is already a code of practice that you can look at, and it represents the barometer for what we are trying to do. The new code of practice might well add stuff or take it away, but all of that will be done in consultation with the stakeholders.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jim Fairlie

We are seeing them already, and they are happening all over the country. Those relationships are good and workable, and we hope that that approach will continue.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jim Fairlie

NatureScot would certainly have to abide by the law. If we are talking about the code of practice, that code is there to get people to work collectively and collaboratively.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jim Fairlie

It will not be anywhere near the end of the process—the end of the process will be much further down the line. It is at the start of a process that NatureScot has previously instigated by trying to communicate beforehand.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jim Fairlie

No, it will not come as a surprise. If somebody has received a five-day notice, NatureScot will already have made contact with them to say that it has a concern and that it would like to have a conversation. If it gets blanked or refused, it will come back and say, “Right, we need to have this conversation now.”

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jim Fairlie

Yes. The important thing is that the order stays with the land, and that is as it should be.