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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 March 2026
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

That is not the case, convener. I get where you are trying to go with this. We had this conversation when I introduced the SSI with the 410 days scheme. In my understanding, it was very clear that everyone who required to be consulted at that point was on board. At the last minute, however, it became quite clear that they were not.

That goes back to my first point, about always making sure that the industry is coming with us. To me, that is vital if we are going to be successful.

We got to a point, at the very last minute, where we were not going to get that SSI through until I gave a commitment that we would go away and have a look at the issue, because something had clearly gone wrong. Since then, there has been extensive consultation and communication between all the various groups. If people are telling you that they have not been consulted, I dispute that—I just do not buy it.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

That is not part of what I am thinking about right now at all. I am thinking about how we can move from a very limited number of people carrying out the EFA greening on only 5 per cent of land to bringing in other people—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

Our current target is to introduce the 7 per cent requirement in 2027. That is where things sit, and that will be developed as we move forward. There will have to be a lot of discussion if we are ever to move that percentage upwards.

We feel that there are enough options to allow farmers to reach that 7 per cent. However, as we said, this is an on-going process. The more conversation we have, the more options we can bring forward for farmers to tap into. I am more than happy to have a look at all that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

The first thing I will say is that you keep saying “your”. I hoped that what we had was ours. This is supposed to be across all parties. We have all agreed that we are looking to ensure that Scotland can deliver the right outcomes. I presume that, by saying “your”, you mean that you are not on board with that. If you have an expanded list that you would like to put to us, by all means, please send it to me, Mr Eagle. I am more than happy to meet you.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

It also brings in the derogation for the calving interval for small producers.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

Could you repeat that, convener?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

Yes.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

There are not just four options.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

There are four extra options—in addition to all the other ones. There are farmers who have been doing this since 2015. Some farmers pushed back on doing anything in 2015. Then, when they got their heads around it and started to implement it, it became much easier and the pushback became zero. We are in the same position again, because we are asking farmers to do things that they have not done before. We are asking them to change. We have added the additional four options to take into account some of the issues around islands, for instance. We are listening to what stakeholders are telling us, including about where the issues are. Not everybody is going to get everything they want out of this—that is just the way it goes. I can assure you that plenty of environmental non-governmental organisations would tell us that we have not gone nearly far enough. We are bringing in policies that will allow us to take the industry with us and get us on the journey to deliver the outcomes that we want.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

I will let Paul Neison answer that question.