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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 28 February 2026
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jim Fairlie

We consulted on the instrument. We did not consult on the whole picture and whether small producers were part of the scheme.

The SSI is about protecting a scheme that works. My pushback is that I know it works; I have been spoken with people and have seen the work that they are doing. I have also stated that smaller producers can get into the POs just as big producers can. The scheme is certainly working to introduce resilience in our fruit and veg sector. I reiterate that we are actively looking at how we can help to support smaller producers in other ways, but the SSI is about protecting a scheme and a budget that will be under threat if we do not pass the instrument, because it will be used by others from other parts of the UK to access funding. We are talking about two different things.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jim Fairlie

The plan currently works, because the producer organisations that I have spoken to are telling me that it works. It gives them certainty over a three-year period, which is what the SSI will do, rather than a two-year period, in order to continue to develop and grow in what is a very competitive market. No scheme has come from down south, so what do we do? Do we just scrap it altogether and say, “Let’s wait and see what the UK does”? I am afraid that I am not prepared to do that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jim Fairlie

I do not know how many times I have said it this morning: we have the small producers pilot fund, and I am actively looking at how we can create more resilience and ensure that we give small producers the comfort of knowing that the that the Government will back them.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jim Fairlie

No, not right now.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jim Fairlie

Yes. The industry is incredibly labour intensive. The increase in national insurance contributions has put massive pressure on producers’ funds. As a result, they are increasingly finding themselves struggling to make it work.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jim Fairlie

Yes.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jim Fairlie

I have no idea how many acres of berries those producers were growing. In terms of a definition, what I can tell you is that they said, “As a small producer, I am far too wee to be able to do on my own the things that I can do as part of the PO group. Being in a PO is the best thing that has ever happened, and it has saved my business.” I am paraphrasing, but it was very much along those lines. That is one of the things that gave me the confidence to say that what we are doing is absolutely the right thing to do. We need to protect the fund, so that those smaller-scale producers can tap into that resource. The big guys really know their stuff: they know how to get things done; they know how to move with the market; and they can see market trends. Smaller producers, however, often get left behind, so it is helpful if they can get access to the thinking of the big producers.

As I said, I have no idea about the numbers in relation to the scale of those producers. George Burgess can give you some technical answers on the operation of the small producers fund.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Jim Fairlie

On your very last point, the strategic wildfire strategy that I have just talked about will do an awful lot of heavy lifting. A hell of a lot of work is going into that.

As for whether we are engaging with stakeholders, we absolutely are. I had a meeting with the Scottish Gamekeepers Association last week, when I met the young keepers. We are having extensive conversations about what is needed, what the practitioners are capable of doing, what the restrictions on them could or could not be, and how we can make the system work so that they can continue to realise the benefits of muirburn, but in a safe and practicable way. Those conversations are on-going, which is why I have delayed bringing in the licences until next year.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Jim Fairlie

Douglas Ross will shortly lay out what amendment 257 states, but my understanding is that it would take away powers from NatureScot, because he does not trust NatureScot to make an impartial and unbiased decision. Local authorities would have to consider the protected status of gulls in the same way as NatureScot would, so is he saying that local authorities should dismiss the fact of that status?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Jim Fairlie

Will the member take an intervention?