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COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 24 February 2022
Jim Fairlie
Thank you very much; that is very helpful.
COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 24 February 2022
Jim Fairlie
Thanks very much to witnesses for coming along to speak to us today.
I will come back to the issue of staff morale in a minute or two, but I will start by telling you what my thinking is. This is an inquiry into excess deaths. What do you feel the value of the inquiry is to your profession?
COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 24 February 2022
Jim Fairlie
I go back to Dr Shackles—I will come back to Professor Elder in a moment.
Do you believe that the purpose and value of the committee’s inquiry is that it can shine a light on the deficiencies that already existed?
COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 24 February 2022
Jim Fairlie
Sorry—I want to come in on that. Surely it would not be viable for us to have that level of staffing at all times in order to cope with a potential peak.
COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 24 February 2022
Jim Fairlie
I know. Given where we are in the pandemic, what is the World Health Organization’s advice on testing?
COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 24 February 2022
Jim Fairlie
I will be very brief, convener. My question is for Dr Shackles. We all stood outside our doors and clapped for the NHS and for nurses, but there seems to have been a massive turnaround. You guys have now become the whipping boys, with GP surgeries experiencing appalling abuse. I guess that some of that will be because GPs’ practices are changing and that you are now seeing people online as opposed to in person. Where is the GP system at the moment? Will it go back to being in-person appointments only? How do we make it easier and better for GPs as an individual profession within a wider profession? I very much take on board your comments about the tracing of patients’ information, and we should look at that, as well as making sure that the IT system works for you guys. What else do you need to turn the situation around so that you no longer receive the utterly appalling abuse that you have been getting?
COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 24 February 2022
Jim Fairlie
No—far from it.
COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 24 February 2022
Jim Fairlie
Thank you for your answer. You said that you hoped that I was not implying that the pandemic was over—it is quite the opposite. I am probably one of the more cautious people, given my background.
With regard to learning the lessons, and splitting up elective provision and emergency provision, would it be fair to say that, had we had elective clinics already in place, we would have had fewer excess deaths?
COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 24 February 2022
Jim Fairlie
It is for anybody who wants to answer it. You guys are the experts.
COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 24 February 2022
Jim Fairlie
Because people sometimes just put their hands up and say, “No, no, we’re not doing it any more,” the Government must have the ability to say that something will happen because of whatever the circumstances are. We are far from being out of the pandemic. I know that I may be one of the more cautious members of the committee but, as far as I am concerned, until we are through it, we are not through it. Therefore, it is essential that the Government has the powers to take proportionate action.