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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 28 February 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Jim Fairlie

To finish the point that I was making, the measures include the potential to have travel safety officers. We are continually looking at how we make sure that public transport is safe.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Jim Fairlie

I absolutely appreciate those concerns and all the considerations that we have heard from Young Scot, which has every ability to feed into the code of conduct—that is absolutely at the foundation of how the code of conduct is being drawn up. However, I absolutely take on board the committee’s concern that there are questions that we cannot answer at this stage. We can say, however, that we want to proceed with the principle of being able to remove the concessionary card.

I take the convener’s earlier point about withdrawing this Scottish statutory instrument and coming back with it. My concern is the timescales for the parliamentary process, given where we are in the parliamentary session. I hope that we can take enough comfort from the team that is pulling together the documentation that it will approach this properly and equitably, ensuring that fairness is at the heart of what they are trying to do. My officials are more than capable of that.

I therefore ask the committee to agree to the principle of allowing us to remove the card if the thresholds have been met.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Jim Fairlie

The code will come with guidance. I will ask Eilidh McCabe to confirm whether that is right.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Jim Fairlie

No. There would not be a further vote on the principle of allowing the concessionary cards to be removed. The code of conduct would come back to the committee for it to comment on and feed into so that we have as broad a range of views—from the committee and from the people who have written to us—as possible. That is to make sure that the code covers everything that we need it to cover. I will provide a copy of the current draft code for the committee to feed comments into it. We will take on board the new stuff that we have heard today, and that will help us to put together a final code of conduct that should then be put in place.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Jim Fairlie

The reason why it is taking so long to get the code of conduct is precisely so that we look at all the issues that have been raised by the committee today. You are absolutely correct: it is vital that we get it right. The process must have fairness, equity and parameters, and it must understand context, as Bob Doris was saying. I completely take on board all those things. The principle of being able to remove a pass was the primary reason for laying the SSI at this stage, so that we could get the process moving and ensure that we did not run out of parliamentary time to get it done. I hope that the committee has enough confidence that the work that you are all asking about is being undertaken and that it will be done diligently by the team of officials who are working on it.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Jim Fairlie

As I said earlier, we are looking at potential visible safety measures, including travel safety officers—we can call them that just now—which some private operators already have.

On how we will publicise it, there are a number of routes for how that will be done. A lot of it will be through social media, if it is targeted at young people, but there will be other things that we can do to ensure that people understand it.

Passing the SSI is a signal that the kind of behaviour that you rightly talk about as unacceptable will be tackled. All of this will build up the momentum to make sure that people understand that, with a bus pass, there is a responsibility as well as a right. Therefore, the code of conduct has to be clear and understood by people.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Jim Fairlie

They would reapply to get their bus pass back.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Jim Fairlie

My understanding is that that was not considered. If the entitlement is removed, the entitlement is removed completely.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Jim Fairlie

No—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Jim Fairlie

If someone has had their card removed, they will have gone through a process to ensure that that was appropriate. The scheme was never about giving free travel to children to get to school—we were absolutely clear about that. If there is a requirement for the local authority to provide that person’s travel to school and it has chosen to let pupils use the concessionary travel scheme instead, that is a local authority issue. It is not an issue for the scheme.