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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 January 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Jim Fairlie

It is not a trick question—it is just out of curiosity.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Water Industry

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Jim Fairlie

Alan Sutherland, you talked about replacing a brick in a sewer—or potentially not doing as much of that work. We have all received a briefing from Unison, which is headed “Scottish Water—privatisation by stealth and union busting”. Unison makes the claim that

“Scottish Water is being hollowed out.”

There are clearly issues that will have to be addressed regarding the relationships between Scottish Water and consumers and between Scottish Water and its workforce. I am not going to get into the specifics of it, but I raise that because I want to come back to the point that I was asking you about earlier. When you are getting information from Scottish Water, do you have sufficient powers to compel it to give you the information that you require so that we can avoid such situations happening in the first place?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Water Industry

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Jim Fairlie

Okay. The convener was probably right in not wanting to allow me to ask that question, but I have it now on the record.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Water Industry

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Jim Fairlie

Absolutely. The committee is aware that WICS has raised concerns about the quality and completeness of the information that Scottish Water provides. I refer again to the meeting of September 2022. The minutes state that Alan Sutherland

“noted that it is difficult to understand the consequences of SW’s decisions for future investment needs. He asked how SW would report any disconnect between maintenance and asset replacement in terms of the long-term position.”

Are you getting the information that you require? There is a whole range of other things in the minutes—I will not take up the committee’s time going over them—that show, quite clearly, that WICS has not been getting the information or the information was not put to it in such a way that it could make a determination. Has the situation improved?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Water Industry

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Jim Fairlie

Okay; thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Jim Fairlie

I have a final question, convener.

Earlier the convener talked about going from 1.6TWh now to 7TWh in 2035. Will it not require a huge workforce to be able to modify and change our existing infrastructure? Do we have that workforce, and do we have that skills base?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Jim Fairlie

There are things that we will need to negotiate going forward, but we do not stop going forward, because we hope that we will find agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Water Industry

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Jim Fairlie

It sounds to me like you are getting obfuscation when you are asking for answers to legitimate questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Jim Fairlie

Yes, eventually.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Jim Fairlie

I am sorry, but questions keep getting sparked by other people asking questions.

Monica Lennon was asking about energy from waste, and there is a presumption against building new incinerator plants. I think that I am also right in saying that there is a ban on municipal waste for landfill. Is there not value in continuing to get better technology into incinerator plants if we are going to develop those energy from waste systems?