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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 30 November 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Our next item of business is the commencement of our pre-budget scrutiny. Today, we will focus on policing. We have two panels of witnesses and I intend to allow up to 60 minutes for each panel. I refer members to papers 3 and 4.

I welcome to the meeting Chief Constable Jo Farrell, Deputy Chief Constable Alan Speirs and Ms Lynn Brown, the head of finance at Police Scotland. Thank you for sending your written submission. I invite the chief constable to make a short opening statement, and then we will move to questions.

Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

If not, I will move on, because we are slightly tight for time and others members want to come in. May I interject and move you on to your next question?

Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

One of the issues that has come up in our budget scrutiny over the past few years has been the benefit of multiyear funding. In your written submission, you say:

“We continue to seek more appropriate funding arrangements”,

including multiyear funding, which would provide

“the ability to carry forward ... reserves and statutory borrowing powers”.

Have you had any conversations or engagement with the Scottish Government regarding multiyear funding? Have you made any progress in that regard?

Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Fiona McQueen, in relation to that landscape, Katy Clark asked the previous witnesses about embedding community policing as a clear part of the policing response in Scotland. The chief constable took a fair bit of time to outline the complexities and challenges related to shifting crime types, which we all understand. How confident are you that it is possible, in the fiscal climate that we face, to achieve an optimum policing response that provides reassurance in communities and is able to effectively respond to the more complex policing challenges that are emerging and that the chief constable set out?

Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

At this point, I want to come in with a few questions, the first of which is a question that I asked the chief constable at the end of the previous evidence session about tackling climate change and the climate crisis. That is an issue that all public sector organisations are looking at with regard to reducing emissions. How is Police Scotland working with the SPA to address operational emissions in line with the Scottish Government’s quite ambitious net zero targets? Specifically, what oversight can you offer Police Scotland in that space?

Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

You could perhaps follow that up later.

Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

We are a little bit over time, but I have a final question that relates to some work that is going on in the Parliament, across the committees, which are looking at their individual sectors and portfolios in the context of what public sector organisations are doing to reduce emissions. Collectively, we are looking to address climate change. Will you comment briefly on what work is on-going in Police Scotland to reduce carbon emissions?

Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Rachael Hamilton has a brief question, and I ask witnesses to be brief with their answers.

Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you for that very comprehensive response. I do not have a follow-up question, so I will hand over directly to Liam Kerr, to be followed by Sharon Dowey.

Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

You have set out the workforce pressures very well. I note that the Police Scotland submission sets out some detail on work debt, as it describes it. We have always accepted that there has been a significant demand on police time, but it feels as though that is becoming ever more acute, so I am pleased that the chief constable is focused on that priority.

We are a little ahead of time, but, if no member has any final questions, I will wind up the session. I thank the witnesses for their time. The session has been helpful.

12:45 Meeting continued in private until 13:16.