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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Thank you for that. I have a follow-up, which Kirsten Horsburgh can perhaps come in on. This is a big question: are the MAT standards still relevant? I am not suggesting that they are irrelevant, but are they still relevant, given where things have shifted to and how they are shifting, particularly in the context of drug use or drug harm in prison? Is there anything that you want to add on how effective the MAT standards still are?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Audrey Nicoll
It is helpful for people to understand what that role looks like.
We are a couple of minutes over our time, but does anyone want to add anything that we have not covered? We have got off to a really good start.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Our next item of business is consideration of two negative statutory instruments, which relate to pensions for police officers or firefighters. In relation to the instrument on police pensions, I declare an interest as a retired police officer.
I refer members to papers 3 and 4, which set out the purpose of the instruments. I note that the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee made a series of recommendations about the drafting of both instruments, some of which the Scottish Government does not seem to have responded to. Therefore, irrespective of whether the committee agrees that the instruments should come into force, I think that we should write to the Scottish Government to ask why there has been no response. Do members agree to that proposal?
Members indicated agreement.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Audrey Nicoll
As members have no other recommendations to make in relation to the instruments, are we content that they come into force?
Members indicated agreement.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Audrey Nicoll
That brings the public part of the meeting to a close. Next week, we will continue to take evidence as part of our inquiry into the harm caused by substance misuse in Scottish prisons. We now move into private session.
12:13 Meeting continued in private until 12:41.Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Audrey Nicoll
I am just jotting down your last point, Kirsten. I did not quite appreciate that options such as Buvidal are available in prison but not in the community, so thank you for raising that.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Audrey Nicoll
I would like to go back to a point that was made about the close working relationship between the Scottish Prison Service and the University of Dundee, particularly the Leverhulme research centre for forensic science, which is based at the university. The SPS submission refers to the University of Dundee providing valuable insights into the extent and nature of the illicit drugs that are being used in prisons.
I do not need to tell anyone about the financial situation that Dundee university is facing, and I do not expect you to comment on that. However, given the value of the work that the university does in conjunction with the Prison Service, how much of an impact might any change in that arrangement have on the work that you are doing on tackling drug harm in the Scottish Prison Service estate?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Audrey Nicoll
A very good morning, and welcome to the 17th meeting in 2025 of the Criminal Justice Committee. We have received no apologies. Fulton MacGregor is running slightly late due to train issues, but he will join us shortly.
Our first agenda item is a decision on whether to take in private item 4, which is our review of today’s evidence. Do we agree to take that item in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Meeting of the Parliament [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 May 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Will the minister outline some of the very good and important youth work that the Scottish Government has supported, including through the cashback for communities programme, which specifically supports young people to divert them away from crime and antisocial behaviour and teaches the consequences of violence and carrying weapons, including knives?
Meeting of the Parliament [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 May 2025
Audrey Nicoll
I understand the member’s point about skills and knowledge but, as a constituency MSP, I have had a number of retired engineers from the oil and gas sector come to discuss potential projects in all aspects of renewables. I put that out there so that the member is aware of it.