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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 25 January 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Audrey Nicoll

A very good morning, and welcome to the 34th meeting of the Criminal Justice Committee in 2025. We have received no apologies this morning. Fulton MacGregor will join us presently, and we are joined by Pam Gosal.

Our first item of business is to continue our evidence taking on the Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill. We have one panel of witnesses today, and I intend to allow up to 90 minutes for questions. I refer members to papers 1 and 2.

I welcome Dr Emma Forbes, national lead for domestic abuse at the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service; Professor Liz Gilchrist, member of the criminal law committee of the Law Society of Scotland; Detective Superintendent Adam Brown, from Police Scotland; and Glyn Lloyd, chief social work officer and head of children’s and community justice services at Dundee City Council, and chair of the justice standing committee at Social Work Scotland. A warm welcome to you all, and thank you very much for the written submissions that you have provided.

Before we start, I remind members and our witnesses to be succinct in their questions and answers. I also remind members that they can select specific witnesses to respond to their questions. That will help us to get through as many questions and responses as possible.

I will open up with a question relating to part 1, which is on notification requirements and monitoring under the multi-agency public protection arrangements, or MAPPA. I will come to Dr Forbes first, and I will then work along the panel, bringing in Professor Gilchrist, Detective Superintendent Brown and then Glyn Lloyd.

Could you set out the role of your organisation in the current multi-agency approach to domestic abuse? That could include the use of the multi-agency risk assessment conference, or MARAC, the multi-agency tasking and co-ordination domestic abuse programme, or MATAC, and the disclosure scheme for domestic abuse. In your view, does the current approach work? Could it be improved? Do the provisions of the bill improve or add to the current approach? I know that you may come to this from more of a philosophical perspective, Professor Gilchrist.

I ask Dr Forbes to open up.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Audrey Nicoll

We move to Jamie Hepburn.

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Good morning, and welcome to the 33rd meeting of the Criminal Justice Committee in 2025. We have no apologies this morning. Fulton MacGregor is joining us online, and we are also joined by Pam Gosal MSP.

Our first item of business is to decide whether to consider all the evidence heard on, and any follow-up correspondence or action from, our consideration of the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service delivery review in private at this meeting and at future meetings. Are we agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I will have to ask for your question, please.

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I ask you to select one or two of the witnesses to respond, because we are running out of time.

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I will come back to you for that later, Katy. I will bring in Liam Kerr first to keep the order of questions right in my head.

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Do you want to come back in, Liam?

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I think that Agnes Tolmie wants to come in before you move on.

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I will pause you there and bring in Katy Clark. There are also one or two follow-up questions, including questions from Pam Gosal.

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Our next item of business is to begin evidence taking on the Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill. We have one panel of witnesses today, for which I intend to allow up to 90 minutes. I refer members to papers 2, 3 and 4.

I welcome Debbie Jupp, operational manager at Committed to Ending Abuse; Dr Marsha Scott, chief executive of Scottish Women’s Aid; Agnes Tolmie, who joins us online and who is chair of the Scottish Women’s Convention; and Tumay Forster, operational manager with Shakti Women’s Aid. A warm welcome to you all, and thank you for your written submissions.

Before we start, I remind you all to please be as succinct as you can in your questions and answers. I will start with a broad opening question, and then I will bring in other members. I will start with Dr Marsha Scott and then bring in Tumay Forster, Agnes Tolmie and Debbie Jupp.

What are your views on the main provisions of the bill, and in particular parts 1 and 2? Which provisions do you support and which do you disagree with or have questions about?