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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 21 November 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

We have run out of time. I thank everyone for their contributions, which have been really helpful. We will now have a brief pause to allow for a change of witnesses.

10:45 Meeting suspended.  

10:50 On resuming—  

Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you, chief constable. I commend you for the written submission, which is extremely detailed and very helpful in reflecting the changing demand across Police Scotland.

In your written submission and your comments a moment ago, you referred to the requirement for a minimum cash-terms revenue uplift of £104.9 million in 2026-27. In addition, the Scottish Police Authority has told us that policing needs £93.9 million of capital investment for the same period to deliver the basic rolling replacement programme for fleet, systems and policing equipment.

What discussions have you had so far with the SPA and the Scottish Government about those figures? What would be the consequences of a settlement that was less than what you have asked for?

Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I will perhaps come back to that later. In the meantime, I bring in Liam Kerr, followed by Jamie Hepburn.

Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

That is helpful. You made an interesting point at the end of those comments. I had not really thought about that, but it makes sense.

I will broaden out the discussion. I am interested in your comments on the on-going public service reform strategy. How is that supporting the SPA and Police Scotland to carry out a range of reforms? Does it present challenges, too? That is quite a general question, but I am interested in hearing how that strategy is supporting Police Scotland as one of our public sector organisations.

Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you very much. We are keen to cover a lot of issues that were raised in previous sessions. One of the key ones is the application of the proposed new criminalising offence, so to speak, in the context of off-street crime and off-street prostitution.

However, first I will come back to Detective Superintendent Bertram. One of the provisions in the bill relates to placing a responsibility or a duty on the Scottish ministers to ensure that support is provided to women who are working in this industry. We know that Police Scotland is already heavily involved in extensive collaborative work as part of operation begonia. As a north east MSP, I am very aware of how well-established and strong those collaborative partnerships are.

I am interested in your reflections and commentary on how important the support—the non-criminalising—element is to the work on tackling prostitution and the demand for prostitution. How could that be improved? Where are there gaps in that provision that relate to the bill that would be helpful for us to understand?

Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I have a final question on sustaining support and, specifically, on funding. I am interested in the current picture of support across Scotland. For example, in the north-east, the fairer Aberdeen fund is used for the work to support women. I am interested in how reliable and sustainable funding is, given the context of the bill that we are looking at today and the existing support provision.

Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

That would be appreciated. Thank you very much.

Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you for that opening statement. I have a general opening question, which is similar to the one that I asked the chief constable in our earlier session. Does the Scottish Police Authority support the case made by Police Scotland for uplifts of nearly £105 million in revenue and £94 million in capital for the year 2026-27? If so, what discussions have you had with the Scottish Government on that? What action might be required if the settlement for Police Scotland is less than what has been requested?

Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Is that important work included in the budget submission that you have provided? We are looking at issues from a budget perspective and considering the implications of that work in the context of your policing budget.

Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I apologise that we have gone over our time. Thank you, all, for a really helpful session.

The committee will suspend briefly to allow for a changeover of witnesses.

11:55 Meeting suspended.  

12:00 On resuming—