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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 January 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 26 January 2022

Audrey Nicoll

That is helpful. I am grateful for those points. Just to clarify, I note that one of the main reasons for keeping the petition open previously was that a number of judicial processes had not been concluded when the committee was considering the petition. My understanding is that that was the basis on which the petition remained open. I note Jamie Greene’s comments, but I am not altogether sure what alternative legal processes are open to the family, in particular, or to others. It is appropriate that we, as a new committee, keep the petition open on the basis of the points that we have made. If members are agreed, that is what we will do.

Before we conclude our consideration, I will bring in Fulton MacGregor and Russell Findlay.

Criminal Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 26 January 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Our second petition is PE1458, which was lodged by Peter?Cherbi. It calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to create a register of pecuniary interests of judges bill or to amend existing legislation to require all members of the judiciary in Scotland to submit their interests and hospitality received to a publicly available register of interests.

The previous committee saw merit in the case that was made for such a register, and a call for such was part of the recent programme for government.

My suggestion for the committee is likely to be that we continue to keep the petition open and that we ask the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Veterans for clear information on when he plans to take forward the commitment to the register and what form it will take. I invite members to raise any comments or points that they would like to make.

Criminal Justice Committee

Public Service Pensions and Judicial Offices Bill

Meeting date: 26 January 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Our next item of business is consideration of a legislative consent memorandum on the Public Service Pensions and Judicial Offices Bill. I refer members to paper 2.

The bill deals mostly with reserved matters, but it proposes a couple of changes to devolved competences. For example, the amendment to the Public Service Pensions Act 2013 that is explained in the LCM relates to judicial pension schemes and the ability to add additional devolved offices to the new judicial pension scheme. If the bill is passed, the Scottish Government will propose that the mandatory retirement age for judges and sheriffs be increased from 70 to 75. The bill will also enable devolved judicial offices to be added to a judicial pension scheme, which will be done though legislation that is considered in the United Kingdom Parliament.

I note that the Scottish Parliament’s Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee wrote to the cabinet secretary to seek an explanation as to why the changes are not being made by Scottish statutory instrument. As members will be aware, we have received a copy of the reply from the cabinet secretary to the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee clarifying that point.

I invite members to come in with any views or comments on the LCM.

There are no comments. Does the committee agree to recommend to the Scottish Parliament that the relevant provisions of the Public Service Pensions and Judicial Offices Bill should be considered by the UK Parliament?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Public Service Pensions and Judicial Offices Bill

Meeting date: 26 January 2022

Audrey Nicoll

I will arrange for a short, factual report to be published on our deliberations.

That concludes the public part of the meeting. We move into private session and on to MS Teams.

10:20 Meeting continued in private until 10:42.  

Criminal Justice Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 26 January 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Good morning, everybody, and welcome to the third meeting in 2022 of the Criminal Justice? Committee. There are no apologies. I ask that members ensure that their mobile phones are switched to silent and that they wait for the sound engineer to switch on their microphone before speaking.

Agenda item 1 is a decision on taking business in private. Do members agree to take item 4 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 26 January 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Agenda item 2 is consideration of two petitions that were referred to the Justice Committee in the previous parliamentary session and which were carried over into this session. I refer members to paper 1. I should say that this is the first time that we have looked at the petitions since the Criminal Justice Committee was established. I will shortly invite members to give their thoughts.

I will start with PE1370, which was lodged by Dr Jim Swire on behalf of the Justice for Megrahi campaign group. This important petition calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to open an independent inquiry into the conviction of the late Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi for the bombing of Pan Am flight 103 in December 1988.

The previous committee kept the petition open and, in effect, placed it on hold pending the conclusion of the different inquiries and various legal cases that were being pursued in the courts. The committee members felt that they could not?make a decision?on the merits of the petition until those processes had been concluded.

As the clerk’s paper notes, some but not all of the legal processes have been completed. Members will note the letter that was received yesterday from Iain McKie on behalf of the Justice for Megrahi committee, which confirms that the family of Mr al-Megrahi continue to seek a Supreme Court opinion. We are grateful to Mr McKie for the helpful update.

My suggestion for the committee is likely to be that we continue to keep the petition open until we are clearer about what steps, if any, the family of Mr al-Megrahi plan to take in relation to any appeal to the Supreme Court.

I invite views and comments from members.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 26 January 2022

Audrey Nicoll

To ask the Scottish Government what progress is being made with the latest Scottish wholesale food and drink resilience fund. (S6O-00669)

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 26 January 2022

Audrey Nicoll

I thank the cabinet secretary for that helpful answer. Access to the fund will provide a lifeline to many wholesale businesses that were severely impacted by the omicron variant just as they were beginning their recovery and looking forward to the festive season. One such business in my constituency is experiencing added uncertainty about eligibility, arising from having been unable to apply for previous business support. Can the cabinet secretary provide an assurance that funding will be forthcoming as a matter of urgency and that all eligible applications will be considered, regardless of whether the business received funding in the previous round?

Meeting of the Parliament

My Breath is My Life

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Audrey Nicoll

I congratulate my colleague and old friend—with the emphasis on friend, rather than old; I meant it in the most respectful way—Jackie Dunbar, for bringing forward the motion. I know that this is an initiative that she has been committed to as it has been developed locally in Aberdeen city and Aberdeenshire.

I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests, which states that I am a councillor in Aberdeen City Council. I thank the Asthma and Allergy Foundation for its helpful briefing ahead of the debate.

I shamefully admit that, despite living in the north-east, I had not crossed paths with the my breath is my life initiative until Jackie Dunbar lodged the motion. The notion of a learning resource that delivers training to children and young people on how to cope with an asthma attack seems logical and, as Jackie Dunbar highlighted, the statistics speak for themselves. In Scotland, around 368,000 people live with asthma, around 72,000 of whom are children. Tragically, 2020 saw 113 asthma deaths. I cannot imagine the loss and the sense of tragedy that is felt by the families and friends who are affected.

Prevention plays a vital role in many aspects of our lives, particularly in our health and wellbeing—for example, our daily multivitamin tablets, our free eye tests and, of course, our flu and Covid vaccine jags and boosters. We are fortunate to be able to access a wide range of resources and educational opportunities to enhance our confidence and skills, which help us to respond to unforeseen events in which we might need to remember the recovery position from our first aid training, or, for cases of suspected stroke, the FAST mnemonic—facial drooping, arm weakness, speech difficulties and time. It therefore stands to reason, given the potentially serious consequences of an asthma attack, that education on how to respond—for those living with asthma, their carers, families and teachers—could, literally, mean the difference between life and death.

The commitment of Martina Chukwuma-Ezike in establishing the Asthma and Allergy Foundation, and in developing the my breath is my life resource, is inspiring. She has turned her traumatic personal experience into an opportunity to educate and empower those who live with asthma. It was fantastic to learn that the my breath is my life workshop has been delivered to almost 15,000 pupils, just under 600 teachers, pupil support assistants, parents, and others, teaching learners to understand asthma, identify symptoms and triggers and, importantly, how to manage their condition. It is truly a fantastic achievement.

However, the my breath is my life project is not just about raising awareness; it is about supporting people to have a good life in which they are in control of their asthma, rather than their asthma controlling them. Although it is currently a local initiative, the project will be making its own valid contribution to ensuring that children can stay in education, play sport and experience strong mental health, and, further on in their lives, can access skills development, educational opportunities and positive outcomes.

In that regard—and in conclusion—I note that the motion calls for the my breath is my life project to be made available nationally. Having spent many years in volunteering roles with children and young people, there is no doubt in my mind that such a project merits every consideration for wider roll-out across Scotland, and I will do everything that I can to support efforts in that respect.

17:25  

Meeting of the Parliament

Topical Question Time

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Audrey Nicoll

How will the 2022-23 budget maintain the Scottish Government’s commitment to protect the police resource budget, improve service delivery, and enhance safety and security in communities across Scotland?