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Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 30 March 2022
Audrey Nicoll
Good morning, and welcome to the 13th meeting in 2022 of the Criminal Justice Committee. We have received no apologies this morning.
Our main item of business is our final evidence session on the Fireworks and Pyrotechnic Articles (Scotland) Bill. I refer members to papers 1 and 2.
I am very pleased to welcome Ash Regan, the Minister for Community Safety; Elinor Findlay, the bill team leader; David Bell, the pyrotechnics policy lead; and Natalie Stewart, a solicitor in the Scottish Government legal directorate. Ms Stewart joins us remotely. We appreciate the time that you are taking to join us this morning. I invite the minister to make some brief opening remarks.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 30 March 2022
Audrey Nicoll
Does Katy Clark want to come back in?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 30 March 2022
Audrey Nicoll
Thank you very much—that is helpful. I have more questions around that but I will not ask them right now. I will bring Jamie Greene back in.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 30 March 2022
Audrey Nicoll
Of course. Thank you.
Jamie Greene has a supplementary question. I ask him to make it his last question, as it is now 11 o’clock.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 30 March 2022
Audrey Nicoll
That is a helpful clarification because we have been considering the option to pull off that part of the bill and deal with it separately so that we would not be restricted to the current timescales in considering the other provisions.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 30 March 2022
Audrey Nicoll
On that happy note, I bring in Fulton MacGregor.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 30 March 2022
Audrey Nicoll
We will move swiftly on to some questions about control zones.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 30 March 2022
Audrey Nicoll
Thanks very much. I am keen to move questions on, because I have a few other themes to cover. I will bring in Pauline McNeill and then I would like to move to questions on licensing.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 30 March 2022
Audrey Nicoll
We are coming into the final 20 or 25 minutes of the session, and members have a few areas that they want to ask questions about. It would be helpful, therefore, if we could have succinct questions and answers.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 30 March 2022
Audrey Nicoll
I cannot resist the temptation to comment on this point. Legislative provisions are available to Police Scotland on the carrying of offensive weapons, whereby, if someone has a lawful reason for carrying a particular object or is doing so within the curtilage of a premises for a lawful reason, that is fine. I agree with Russell Findlay’s comment that police officers probably err on the side of caution. If they are aware that there is a provision in a piece of legislation whereby, say, a pyrotechnic can be carried lawfully, I anticipate that they would invoke that legislation proportionately. I am therefore keen for the provision to be reconsidered and explored a bit further.
Do you want to comment, Mr Bell?