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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 30 November 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I am sure that what you have been outlining will come up in further questioning, so I will move to my second question, which relates specifically to section 1, on the purchase of a sexual act. In his evidence, Detective Superintendent Bertram emphasised the key point on

“understanding when the crime would be complete”,

noting that

“Whatever legislation comes in needs to be effective for policing.”—[Official Report, Criminal Justice Committee, 5 November 2025; c 3.]

Putting my former—police—hat on, I completely agree with that. I am looking at this from the perspective of whether section 1 sets out an offence that police officers can use effectively, and I have some concerns about that.

Will you talk us through how you envisage section 1 being complete, so to speak, when it comes to the range of scenarios that are covered by the section 1 offence? I suppose that I am asking what threshold of evidence police officers would be expected to obtain to prove that an offence was complete.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

As there are no further questions, our next item of business is the consideration of a motion to approve the affirmative SSI on which we have just taken oral evidence.

Motion moved,

That the Criminal Justice Committee recommends that the Sexual Offences Act 2003 (Notification Requirements) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 2025 [draft] be approved.—[Angela Constance]

Motion agreed to.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you—that is a helpful clarification.

My final question relates to climate change. All committees have been exploring that in scrutinising efforts and arrangements to reduce carbon emissions across their portfolios. In the justice sector, the issue is highly relevant to prisons, policing and the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service.

Will you outline the work that the Government is undertaking to model and deliver the resource that is needed to allow justice stakeholders to deliver on climate targets for the rest of the decade? What sort of achievable targets does the Government want to set specifically for the justice sector in the first carbon budget, which will cover the 2026-30 period? That is in the context of achieving our stated aim of a 57 per cent reduction in emissions from 1990 levels. There is a wee bit in that question, and it might be something that you can outline in a written follow-up response.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

We move to questions from Pauline McNeill.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Rona Mackay will then come in with a supplementary.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I think that we have got the gist of it. I was not expecting quite that amount of detail—but that is helpful. The committee has been made aware that, while it might not quite be a pick and mix, some legislation is utilised while some of it is not. I am thinking about how we might consolidate a lot of it, with consideration to the provisions of the bill. I am interested in what legislation exists already and what the thinking is around the future of that existing legislation—and in how it would work alongside the provisions of the bill, should it be enacted. That was a helpful update.

We have a wee bit of time, and I do not know whether any other committee members want to come in. If not, I invite Ash Regan to speak at this point.

10:45  

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you—that is an interesting update, in particular with regard to orders for lifelong restriction. I know that it relates to the budget, but I think that, separately, we would be interested to hear a wee bit more about the pathway project by way of follow-up.

That has been helpful to understand the situation. I will open up to questions from members.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I think that the date is in your submission. Perhaps that can be clarified.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Where we are coming from in particular is the fact that there is a great opportunity in the new estate development but also the need to understand the challenges associated with the older parts of the estate. If there is a requirement for additional funding resource to allow you to keep the older parts of the estate wind and watertight—never mind to reduce their carbon emissions—it is important to know what the cost implications of that might be. That goes back to Liam Kerr’s question whether the costs would be met within the additional amount of £40 million that you are seeking and which was quoted earlier.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. It is helpful to understand that.

If there are no more questions from members, we will draw our evidence session to a close; it has been really helpful, so thank you very much indeed for joining us.

That concludes the public part of our meeting. We will now move into private session.

12:05 Meeting continued in private until 13:00.