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Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 18 May 2022
Audrey Nicoll
I endorse colleagues’ points about the value of the visit. I have to be honest and say that I did not know much about the Wise Group’s work before the visit, and I learned an awful lot, particularly about its throughcare provision.
I am interested in learning a little more about the wider reach of the Wise Group across Scotland. For instance, I am interested in what work it is doing or planning up here in the north-east. Obviously, we have HMP Grampian near my constituency. I would find it helpful to have a bit of background on that wider work.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 18 May 2022
Audrey Nicoll
I want to ask a quick follow-up question. I am happy to go back to Inga Heyman and ACC Hawkins. We know that, if officers use the provisions in section 297, they can take someone to a place of safety, and they are often turned away for lots of different reasons that we know about. That can be for very legitimate reasons. Essentially, they are left holding the baby. I know that you are working on that and that there is progress across Scotland on pathways. Bearing in mind the challenges of remote and rural areas, what should we be thinking about as the optimum pathway in local areas?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 18 May 2022
Audrey Nicoll
Good morning to the panel. I hope that you can see me—I have a wee bit of a problem with the light in my room. I would like to pick up on the current legislative provision in Scotland. I will come to Inga Heyman first on that.
Dr Heyman, I very much welcomed your comprehensive submission. You picked up on the challenges with the current legislative provision in Scotland, and the legislative barriers that exist. At present, one of the barriers appears to be the Mental Health (Care and Treatment) (Scotland) Act 2003. When officers come to assess an individual to decide whether they might wish to take them to a place of safety, the 2003 act allows them to take someone only from a “public place”, whereas we know that a lot of people are in their homes at the time.
Secondly, the wording of the 2003 act refers to a situation where a police officer
“suspects that a person ... has a mental disorder”.
We know that police officers are not trained to make such an assessment, and it would be inappropriate for us to expect them to be able to do so.
The main issue that officers currently face concerns situations in which individuals are in some distress. I am interested in what you feel that we, as a committee, should be thinking about with regard to making the legislative provision more appropriate, and more of a fit for the growing number of scenarios in which officers encounter someone who is in poor mental health. I will come to Inga Heyman first, and then bring in ACC John Hawkins.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 April 2022
Audrey Nicoll
The next item is consideration of a Scottish statutory instrument. I refer members to paper 3. Do members have any comments to make, or are we content with the instrument?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 April 2022
Audrey Nicoll
Sadly, we have time only for one final question. I ask Russell Findlay to be brief, if he can.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 April 2022
Audrey Nicoll
Thank you very much. Sadly, I have to bring the session to a close. I am sure that we could have asked many more questions and had a much longer discussion. I express my grateful thanks to Baroness Kennedy and Mr Brash for joining us. If committee members want to pick up on issues with Baroness Kennedy, we will do that in writing.
We will have a short suspension to allow our witnesses to leave.
10:44 Meeting suspended.Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 April 2022
Audrey Nicoll
Thank you.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 April 2022
Audrey Nicoll
Good morning, and welcome to the 15th meeting in 2022 of the Criminal Justice Committee. We have not received any apologies this morning.
Our main item of business is an evidence session on the final report of the misogyny and criminal justice in Scotland working group. I refer members to papers 1 and 2. It is my real pleasure to welcome to our meeting Baroness Helena Kennedy QC, chair of the misogyny and criminal justice in Scotland working group; and Mr Bill Brash, misogyny working group team leader with the Scottish Government. I invite Baroness Kennedy to make some brief opening remarks.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 April 2022
Audrey Nicoll
I see that no one else has any comments. Presumably, we will come back next week to reconsider the matter.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 27 April 2022
Audrey Nicoll
Pauline McNeill has a follow-up question and then I will bring in Fulton MacGregor.