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Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 22 February 2023
Audrey Nicoll
I see that no one else wants to come in.
I thank members for their comments, which are all perfectly valid. I will try to summarise the points that have been made. Russell Findlay raised some key issues around the commentary on police suicides and some of the previous responses that we have had, including the correspondence from the Crown Office on police suicides.
Jamie Greene proposed that we go back to Police Scotland to ask further questions, including on the Scottish Police Federation’s comments. Please correct me if I have picked that up wrongly—I have been scribbling down notes. Some other issues have been raised, too.
Part of the reason for the actions that have been set out in paper 4 is that I do not want us to simply get into a chain of correspondence. However, in view of the comments and points that have been made, I ask members to indicate whether they are happy for us to go back to Police Scotland on the specific issues that have been highlighted. Are members happy for us to take that away as an action?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 22 February 2023
Audrey Nicoll
Thank you, Pauline. The issue that you raise about police officer abstractions for court is a very important one. For example, in the north-east division recently, I think that 150 officers were cited for court on a Monday morning. That number will reduce with trials going off, but that is a lot of officers and it has huge implications for operational policing.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 22 February 2023
Audrey Nicoll
Thank you for that permission. Are members agreed?
Members indicated agreement.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 22 February 2023
Audrey Nicoll
We move swiftly on to our next agenda item, which is access to court transcripts and consideration of the Scottish Government’s response on that issue, which we recently raised. I refer members to paper 6. Once again, I invite any views from members on the correspondence.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 22 February 2023
Audrey Nicoll
Thank you for that. Jamie Greene wants to come in.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 22 February 2023
Audrey Nicoll
Does anybody else want to come in very quickly?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 22 February 2023
Audrey Nicoll
Russell Findlay has a final point to make.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 22 February 2023
Audrey Nicoll
We are just about coming up to time, but, in recognition of the importance of and interest in this issue, I am happy to bring in a couple of final questions. I will start with Russell Findlay, who I know has a question, and then I will bring in Pauline McNeill.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 22 February 2023
Audrey Nicoll
I will shortly invite the cabinet secretary to make any further comments as he wishes. However, I will stay with the issue of revealing the whereabouts of a victim’s body. The cabinet secretary specifically referred to some of the circumstances where there are ECHR rights considerations. Would that include a situation where, for example, an individual who has been convicted of a murder is unable to disclose the whereabouts of a body? That could be because of a health condition that that person has, or, as the cabinet secretary mentioned, because they cannot remember: they might remember the broad area, but they cannot be specific about it because of the passage of time. Essentially, including a requirement to reveal the whereabouts of a victim’s body as part of the parole hearing process is akin to having two bites of the cherry, given that the refusal to reveal the whereabouts prior to sentencing would have already been taken into account when the sentence was imposed.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 22 February 2023
Audrey Nicoll
Our next item of business is consideration of the committee’s action plan. I refer members to paper 3. I intend to go through the paper section by section, just to confirm whether members have any comments, wish to make any amendments or, in fact, disagree with the assessments of progress to date.
The first section is on “The impact of COVID and recovery”. Do members wish to flag anything?
As members have no comments, we will move on to the section on “Prisons and prison reform”. It might be worth mentioning or including reference to the Promise, particularly in the part on women and children. In March 2022, there was an update on the Promise. Given that it is supporting young people who are care experienced and, ultimately, seeks to reduce the number of young people in care, it might be worth including that for reference.