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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 21 September 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Law Enforcement and Judicial Co-operation (European Union)

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Your presentation has been really interesting. I have learned a lot from that and from your report, so thank you very much. There is a lot for us to think about with regard to the impact of our withdrawal from Europe. It is good to hear that there are still good levels of co-operation between the UK and European Union member states under the TCA, although you have outlined that there are still some challenges in the area of information and intelligence sharing. I was very interested to hear about the issues relating to the timely execution of warrants, which we will come back to.

I will kick off the questions and then open up the floor to members. Helena Farrand Carrapico, you spoke about notable losses in capability with regard to co-operation between Scotland, the UK and the EU on judicial matters and policing. Based on the conversations that you had during the study and the interviews that you conducted, particularly with police officers and prosecutors, will you say more about which of those losses are the most significant? How much of an impact have those losses had on our ability to tackle crime, particularly in the areas that you mentioned, including human trafficking and cybercrime? It is quite a broad question, but I am interested to hear a wee bit more about that.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Law Enforcement and Judicial Co-operation (European Union)

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Audrey Nicoll

My final question goes back to a point that Helena Farrand Carrapico made towards the end of the presentation on the TCA review and the forthcoming summit that will take place next month. You said that it is likely that the focus will be on defence. That made me think about the importance of the UK-EU co-operation that we have been examining. Ultimately, we are considering public safety and national security, and we are potentially stepping into areas that we would usually think of as sitting in the defence space. Acknowledging the TCA’s importance in relation to judicial co-operation and the wider defence and human rights challenges that are being faced across Europe, how important is it that we make as much progress as possible in the TCA review?

11:30  

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Law Enforcement and Judicial Co-operation (European Union)

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you—that was a really interesting answer. As there are no more questions, I thank you both for attending the meeting. It has been a fascinating evidence session. We look forward to receiving your follow-up points, and the committee will consider the next steps that we can take.

Meeting closed at 11:32.  

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Law Enforcement and Judicial Co-operation (European Union)

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Can you speak about the partnership council? That body is a new one on me and I am interested to hear more about it. It may be that it is outlined in the report and I have overlooked it. What is the partnership council and how do we link with it?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. Before I open up questioning to members, I will come in on the final point that you made with regard to the Crown Office and the Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service. We are aware that the approach has been developed with their involvement. Will you expand a little on their views on the SSI and whether it will meet their needs? Obviously, it will, but what about beyond the timescale that we are looking at today?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Audrey Nicoll

As there are no further questions, we move to our next item of business, which is formal consideration of the negative instrument that we have discussed. Are members content to make no recommendations in relation to the instrument and for it to come into force?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I thank the cabinet secretary and Mr Down for their attendance. We will have a brief pause while we have a changeover of witnesses.

10:11 Meeting suspended.  

10:15 On resuming—  

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Law Enforcement and Judicial Co-operation (European Union)

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I have a couple of final questions. We spoke earlier about nationality bars. The National Crime Agency recently told the House of Lords that about 10 per cent of extradition requests are now being refused because of nationality bars and that, before Brexit, those requests would probably have been successful. You mentioned that as one of your key areas of focus. Gemma Davies, what further scrutiny can the Parliament undertake or offer on that particular issue?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Law Enforcement and Judicial Co-operation (European Union)

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. I have just looked at my notes and I see that you did include it in your presentation—that was my oversight.

Ben Macpherson, do you want to come back in? Then I will bring in Rona Mackay.