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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 2 December 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Audrey Nicoll

You have given some stark evidence there. I will hand over to committee members who have questions.

Criminal Justice Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Our next item of business is to review the evidence that has been submitted to the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee on the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill and to decide whether we wish to take further evidence. For example, one of our options is to schedule a one-off evidence session on the criminal justice-related provisions of the bill. I refer members to paper 4.

Do members have any comments on the proposal to run an evidence session? Do you agree that that would be appropriate?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Audrey Nicoll

I will come in now with questions about efficiencies. What are your views on whether the Scottish Prison Service has scope to put efficiency savings and measures in place? Those could be through, for example, investment in alternatives to custody, which we have already discussed, or spend-to-save projects.

You indicated that you are very sighted on current research on prisons in Scotland, so could you give us your views on whether efficiency savings might not be only about saving money, but could be an opportunity to enhance Scotland’s prison estate and bring in some contemporary practice?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Audrey Nicoll

I will just bring the session to a close—

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Collette Stevenson has some questions about transport.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you, Wendy; that is really interesting.

We are almost at the end of the hour but, if you are happy to bear with us, there are more questions that members would like to ask. I will hand over to Rona Mackay, who will pick up on mental health.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Audrey Nicoll

I will test Fulton MacGregor’s patience; I will bring in Rona Mackay, then hand over to Fulton.

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Audrey Nicoll

That completes our public business. Our next meeting is on Wednesday 16 November, when we will hear from the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Veterans as part of our pre-budget scrutiny and in relation to the United Kingdom Government’s Northern Ireland Troubles (Legacy and Reconciliation) Bill.

As previously agreed, we now move into private session.

11:45 Meeting continued in private until 12:49.  

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 2 November 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Before we move on to other areas of questioning, I will stay with Mr Logue and pick up on Mr McQueen’s point that the bulk of the budget is taken up with staff costs. I assume that the position is similar in the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service. I am interested in the options or scenarios that you are looking at in the budget, however difficult they may be. Are there implications of maintaining staff costs but having to adjust things such as recruitment, or having a pay freeze or that type of scenario?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 2 November 2022

Audrey Nicoll

That brings us to the end of the session, so many thanks for your attendance this morning. If there are any other issues that members want to raise, we will follow those up in writing.

We will have a short suspension to allow our witnesses to leave.

12:06 Meeting suspended.  

12:09 On resuming—