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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Audrey Nicoll
I think that Jamie Hepburn wants to come in with a question on part 3, after which we will open up the discussion to any other members before we move on to part 4.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Audrey Nicoll
Yes, I will bring you in at the end. At the moment, I am keen for us to focus on part 1 of the bill, but I will certainly bring you back in. Is that you finished, Ms Dowey?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Audrey Nicoll
In that case, I will bring in Fulton MacGregor and then Jamie Hepburn. I remind members that we are still on part 1.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Audrey Nicoll
We will have to move on, so thank you for that. I will bring in Liam Kerr, followed by Sharon Dowey.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Audrey Nicoll
I will draw a line under that line of questioning, because we are well over time and there is still one final question to be asked, which is on the financial memorandum.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Audrey Nicoll
Does Charlie Pound want to come in on that point?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Audrey Nicoll
Thank you for that. We will leave that issue there, because I do not think that there is any argument that there is scope to improve data collection. Some of that derives from practice and society moving on.
Rona Mackay wants to ask a question that relates to comments made by the Minister for Victims and Community Safety at our last meeting.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Audrey Nicoll
Ms Gosal, my specific question was more about your views on the assertion that the resource requirement for part 1 of the bill would draw existing resources away from services that, as you have acknowledged, are already under some financial strain.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Audrey Nicoll
I think that Jamie Hepburn wants to come in on the Finance and Public Administration Committee correspondence. As we are well over time, I must ask him to be very brief.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Audrey Nicoll
Ms Gosal, I wonder whether I can draw a line under this point. Ms Mackay has made a clear point. I agree that the comments that Ms Mackay referenced were made by you, but we really need to move on in the interest of time. Thank you, both.
I will end our questions on part 1 of the bill. We are short of time, so I propose that we extend the session by around about 15 minutes, if that is suitable for Ms Gosal and others on the panel.
With that, I will move to part 2. I have one question, which is on the assessment of offenders for rehabilitation. Ms Gosal, the committee has heard evidence about the inconsistency of availability of rehabilitation programmes and services. I do not think that there is any doubt about that. There is scope for a lot more to be provided across Scotland. However, we also heard evidence that it was not particularly clear how the provisions in your bill would address that.
I will therefore ask you this brief question—and I ask for a brief answer. Do you agree that, rather than introducing additional legislation and having everything that goes with that, there is scope to continue to develop and expand existing rehabilitation programmes and services that do not require the underpinning aspect of legislation?