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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Our next four agenda items all relate to our consideration of two affirmative instruments, namely the Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Act 2022 (Extension and Expiry of Temporary Justice Measures) Regulations 2023, and the International Organisations (Immunities and Privileges) (Scotland) Amendment (No 2) Order 2023.

We will start with the extension and expiry of temporary justice measures and I refer members to paper 3 and particularly to table 1 on page 12, which contains a helpful summary of what is proposed. I also refer members to paper 4, which contains a letter that we received from the cabinet secretary earlier this week that sets out plans for a consultation on the permanency of certain criminal justice measures from the Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Act 2022.

I am pleased to welcome back to the meeting the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs, Angela Constance, and her officials. Susan Black is senior policy officer in the civil law and legal system division of the Scottish Government; Emma Thomson is from the Scottish Government legal directorate; Heather Tully is from the justice reform unit of the Scottish Government; Patrick Down is from the criminal law practice and licensing unit of the Scottish Government; and Nicola Guild is from the Scottish Government legal directorate. I invite the cabinet secretary to speak to the instrument.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you very much for that helpful statement. I will bring in members who want to ask questions.

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Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I know that the prison population issue is complex and that multiple factors have an impact on it. Do you think that an element of that pressure still derives from the Covid pandemic and will ease in time, or is it not that simple?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I am happy for Ms Medhurst to follow up in writing with any answers that you are seeking, Pauline.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Good morning, and welcome to the 29th meeting in 2023 of the Criminal Justice Committee. We have received no apologies. Katy Clark will join us shortly.

Our first item of business is to continue our pre-budget scrutiny of the Scottish Government’s 2024-25 budget. I am pleased to welcome Teresa Medhurst, the chief executive of the Scottish Prison Service, and Gerry O’Donnell, its interim director of finance. [Inaudible.]—for their written submission.

We have about 68 minutes for this session. I will begin with some general questions. Will you outline the main challenges relating to spending on prisons in this financial year? What is your view on the budget that you will need for 2024-25?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you very much indeed. I open up questions to other members.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I know that you are very passionate about this but if you could just maybe—

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I know that it is important to discuss this but I am want to make sure that we are focusing on pre-budget scrutiny. I am quite happy for Ms Medhurst and Mr O’Donnell to follow up in writing specific queries that relate to staff. This discussion is about the budget.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Audrey Nicoll

We will move to questions around policing. We have three more areas that members are interested in—police, courts and prisons—but we have a wee bit of time.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Do any other members want to come in on courts? I think that Pauline McNeill does.