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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 December 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Before I bring in Rona Mackay, I will ask a follow-up question. You are aware that we had representatives of the Prison Officers Association Scotland before the committee last week. They spoke about the pressures on prison officers and staff at the moment, not least because of the prison population issue. One of the things that the association called for was a return to 24/7 nursing provision in prisons, just to cope and to support the management more fully with the impact of drug misuse. That would be a significant resource commitment, so I am interested in your views on that, Rhoda. I can see that you wish to comment.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

We are interested in what that impact is, and we will tease that out during the meeting.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Suzy Calder, you are last but not least.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Sharon Dowey, do you want to ask a follow-up question?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I will come in with a follow-up question on that, and Ben Macpherson might want to come in after me. My question is about the pressures that are on prison officers because of the number of serious and organised crime group members who are in prison. To what extent does what is happening outwith prisons in the world of serious and organised crime impact on how settled the prison population is? We know that there is a lot of tension between organised crime groups at the moment.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

My final question is about the use of naloxone. I think that I am right in saying that it has been rolled out in the Scottish Prison Service. How helpful has it been for your colleagues who are on the front line in responding to the inevitable situation of an overdose?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

With us for our second panel, we have Detective Chief Superintendent Raymond Higgins, Police Scotland; Jim Smith, head of operations and public protection, the Scottish Prison Service; Gillian Walker, governor in charge of HMP Shotts, the Scottish Prison Service; and Dr Victoria Marland, lead researcher for the SPS research project at the Leverhulme research centre for forensic science, which is based at the University of Dundee. I offer a warm welcome to you all, and I thank those of you who have provided written submissions.

I refer members to papers 1 and 2 and to the private papers that were circulated separately. As before, I intend to allow approximately 90 minutes for this session.

I will begin with an opening question, and I invite responses from Gillian Walker first and then from Jim Smith, then from Detective Chief Superintendent Raymond Higgins and then from Victoria Marland. You all have quite different areas of expertise and involvement with prevention and enforcement with regard to substances entering prisons. Could you start by outlining what proportion of your work focuses on the security and enforcement aspects as opposed to addressing the harms or other impacts that are caused by substance misuse?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

The impact of the evolving nature of synthetic drugs came up in our session with the POA. I suppose that, back in the day, they knew what they were dealing with to a greater extent than now.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. That segues nicely into hearing from Detective Chief Superintendent Higgins. Obviously, in your role, you will be coming at the matter from the perspective of preventing substances from getting into prisons. We are aware of the joint work between Police Scotland and the Scottish Prison Service, which has been referred to throughout the inquiry.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. That brings us nicely on to Dr Marland and the crucial role of the Leverhulme centre in identifying what is in circulation, what is entering prisons and the impact of those substances. I am interested in hearing a bit more about the centre’s role in that.