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Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 27 September 2023
Audrey Nicoll
Yes.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 27 September 2023
Audrey Nicoll
Could I ask you to pause that question? We will come on to that part of the bill.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 27 September 2023
Audrey Nicoll
I will move on to questions about parts 5 and 6 of the bill. As a reminder, part 5 relates to the establishment of a new sexual offences court and part 6 has three main provisions: first, the automatic statutory right of anonymity for victims of certain offences; secondly, a right to independent legal representation for complainers in sexual offences trials; and, thirdly, to enable a time-limited pilot of single judge trials with no jury for rape and attempted rape cases.
I will pick up on the final provision on single judge trials and the time-limited pilot that is being proposed. In response to Lady Dorrian’s recommendation, were alternative options to that of a single judge trial pilot considered?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 27 September 2023
Audrey Nicoll
Yes, of course. I am conscious of the time, but that would be fine. I will then bring in Fulton MacGregor, and I have a couple of follow-up questions. We might therefore run on an extra five minutes or so.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 27 September 2023
Audrey Nicoll
Finally, I call Katy Clark.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 27 September 2023
Audrey Nicoll
I will finish this set of questions with another question about the position of an accused person, but in relation to the pilot proposal and whether participation in the pilot scheme would be mandatory for an accused person who fell within the scope of the scheme. Might there be a problematic response to that?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 27 September 2023
Audrey Nicoll
That brings us neatly to a close. I thank the cabinet secretary and her officials for attending what has been an extremely helpful session.
That completes the public part of our meeting. Next week, we will start our first phase of evidence taking on the bill by covering parts 1 and 3 and hearing from organisations representing victims of crime as well as the third sector.
12:00 Meeting continued in private until 12:18.Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 27 September 2023
Audrey Nicoll
That is a good point to end on. I will bring in Sharon Dowey and then Rona Mackay
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 27 September 2023
Audrey Nicoll
That was helpful. I have a follow-up question on the aspirations around the experience for individuals who are going through a trial that relates to rape or sexual offences. Would it be possible to achieve what we are aiming to do and improve that experience using a non-legislative option, rather than a legislative one? That might be done by improving trauma-informed training of staff or by expanding the use of evidence by commission so that we can improve and refine what already exists.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 27 September 2023
Audrey Nicoll
I apologise to Sharon Dowey for jumping ahead. Please come in with your question now.