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Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Audrey Nicoll
That brings this session to an end. Thank you very much, Marsha, as ever; and thank you, Fiona—your evidence has been invaluable to us.
10:48 Meeting suspended.Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Audrey Nicoll
I do not think that any other members want to come back in. I have a couple of questions as we come to the end of the meeting.
My first question relates to a point that was made in the previous evidence session about the publication of reports following a review process. Fiona Drouet offered some words of caution about the publication of reports, specifically with regard to the potential impact on families, and Katy Clark brought up the suggestion of redacting reports. There is almost a duty of care in that regard. I am interested in hearing your views on that.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Audrey Nicoll
It is a tricky balance to achieve, I guess.
We will move on to part 1 of the bill in a moment. First, does anyone want to come back in?
10:30Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Audrey Nicoll
I will pick up on a final point on part 2 of the bill, and then members will ask questions on part 1.
Marsha, you touch on part 1 in your submission, but my final question on part 2 is around training for members of the review oversight committee and/or for panel members. My thinking is that training would be appropriate for panel members in particular, but I am interested in hearing your thoughts on that proposal. I ask Fiona to answer first, and then Marsha.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Did you want to come in, Marsha Scott?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Audrey Nicoll
That was helpful. Marsha, my original question was about the key points that you agree with. I would also like to hear any points that you would like to make on improvements or changes that you are interested in.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Can—
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Thanks for providing that clarity. I will bring in Sharon Dowey, then Katy Clark.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Thank you, Marsha. Fiona, do you want to add to that?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Audrey Nicoll
We are now joined by our second panel of witnesses this morning: Katie Brown, equally safe policy manager at the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities; Graeme Simpson, chief social work officer at Aberdeen City Council, here representing Social Work Scotland; and Dr Emma Fletcher, director of public health at NHS Tayside. Welcome to you all, and thank you for your written submissions, which have been circulated in advance of today’s meeting. I intend to allow about 60 minutes for this evidence session.
As with our previous panel, I will start with a general opening question. I will work from my left and then move across the panel. I will therefore start with Katie Brown, followed by Graeme Simpson and then Emma Fletcher.
Can you set out in general terms your organisation’s views on part 2 of the bill and the system of abusive domestic behaviour reviews? What, if any, improvements or refinements would you like to make? In short, do you have any particular areas of concern, or are there aspects of the provisions in the bill that you particularly welcome?