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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 November 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Would members like to come in with any final points?

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Audrey Nicoll

The question is, that motion S6M-14590 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. That will be published shortly.

I thank the cabinet secretary and her officials for attending the meeting. I will suspend the meeting briefly to allow for a changeover of witnesses.

10:39 Meeting suspended.  

10:46 On resuming—  

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Our next item of business is to take evidence from two organisations as part of our on-going pre-budget scrutiny. From Community Justice Scotland, we are joined by Karen McCluskey, chief executive, and Keith Gardner, specialist adviser; and, from Social Work Scotland we have Lynsey Smith, chair of the organisation’s justice standing committee. Welcome to you all.

I refer members to papers 4 and 5. I intend to allow around 75 minutes for this evidence session.

I will start with a fairly broad opening question to get started. I will work from my left, so I will bring in Lynsey Smith then Karen McCluskey and Keith Gardner. What are the main financial challenges that your organisations face, and what are the main things that need to be done in the budget context to address them?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I will come back with some supplementary questions, but I will move on to Karen now.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I will focus on work with young people and the budget side of things. There has been some movement on keeping young people out of young offender institutions, and there is a clear understanding that that is the right thing to do. However, that needs to be underpinned with community justice approaches and interventions so that detention is, in essence, a last resort. I am interested to tease out more detail on the importance of that approach and of smart budgeting. Keith Gardner, what more, if anything, do we need to do to make that approach work so that young people do not enter the prison environment?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Audrey Nicoll

It would be interesting and helpful for the committee to see that detail. Thank you.

I am going to bring our session to a close. I thank all our witnesses for their attendance; your evidence has been very helpful and interesting. We will now move into private session.

12:10 Meeting continued in private until 12:40.  

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Audrey Nicoll

We are just about out of time, but I have a couple of quick final questions. My first one picks up on Fulton MacGregor’s question about case management and the time constraint around recording information. Community Justice Scotland’s submission states:

“The Committee may wish to consider whether funding should be provided to facilitate or require more national multi-agency working arrangements in areas such as data and information sharing.”

That comes back to the recording and sharing of information and being a bit smarter in how we work together. Will you expand on what you have said? I am quite interested in how efficient that part of the system is.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you, cabinet secretary. I open the meeting to questions from members.

Meeting of the Parliament

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Audrey Nicoll

As has been touched on, the Chancellor of the Exchequer’s budget announcement on 30 October will have a hugely significant bearing on the Scottish budget. What engagement has the cabinet secretary had with Creative Scotland to ensure that arts organisations are best placed to navigate the operational challenges presented by the timing of the United Kingdom budget announcement?