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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 May 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Tobacco and Vapes Bill

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Jenni Minto

That is a very good question. I will hand over to Ruth Foulis.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Tobacco and Vapes Bill

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Jenni Minto

The focus of our work over the next 10 years—or nine years, because it is a year since it was launched—is on the tobacco and vaping framework, which looks towards a tobacco-free Scotland in 2034. The UK legislation came in as we were developing our framework, and the Scottish Government has been very pleased to support it because we believe that it moves not only Scotland, but the entire UK, into the ballpark of aiming to be tobacco and vape free in 2034.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Tobacco and Vapes Bill

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Jenni Minto

That is correct. Clause 60 of the bill sets out that the meaning of “nicotine product” includes

“nicotine, or any substance containing nicotine, which is intended to be delivered into the human body”

but we still need ways of providing cessation products for people who wish to cease smoking.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Tobacco and Vapes Bill

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Jenni Minto

As I understand it, not being a smoker and not being a user of herbal products, there are herbal products that are made into cigarettes, and nicotine pouches are also used.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Tobacco and Vapes Bill

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Jenni Minto

Again, my understanding is that herbal products do not necessarily contain nicotine, but they contain substances that can have a carcinogenic impact, as well as tar. That is why they are included in the legislation.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Tobacco and Vapes Bill

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Jenni Minto

There is currently a need for people to confirm their age when they are buying products if the retailer is at all concerned, so that is something that is accepted. The point—which I have made before—is that between 80 and 90 per cent of people who start smoking do so when they are under 20, so by the time the legislation moves through, if it is successful, it is clear that there will be fewer people starting to smoke.

I go back to the point that the legislation is here to help us stop the start, and that is a strong message that everyone should recognise.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Tobacco and Vapes Bill

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Jenni Minto

I am sorry, Dr Gulhane—I lost the train of that question.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Tobacco and Vapes Bill

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Jenni Minto

There are a lot of questions wound up in that. I go back to the development that we are currently doing on the register of tobacco and vape products. That involves changing a platform, which will become a much more useful tool for putting out information to retailers and for getting information back from retailers. The register is really important.

As with any change in regulation, if the bill goes through, we will need to work closely with retailers and have those conversations to ensure that they know about the legislation. That is absolutely key to making this work.

With regard to ensuring that parents are aware of the impacts of tobacco and vaping, I have already highlighted project youth, also known as the Icelandic model, which has had amazing results in improving the health of younger people. In Scotland, at the beginning of this year, we had the take hold campaign, which was specifically aimed at parents and carers to ensure that they understand the impact of vaping on young people’s health. I was really pleased that women’s football used the advert at their cup final at Tynecastle, which pushed it out to an audience that needs to be aware of the impacts.

I also refer to the answers that I gave to Mr FitzPatrick and Mr Whittle—education through curriculum for excellence ensures that children understand the impacts of things on their health.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Tobacco and Vapes Bill

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Jenni Minto

Snus has been banned since 1992.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Tobacco and Vapes Bill

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Jenni Minto

I agree that education is incredibly important. In four or five local authorities, we have a pilot called project youth, which is also known as the Icelandic model, and it works directly with schools, the parents and the wider community on issues such as health, including the negativities around smoking and the impact that it can have on children’s lives as they grow up.

Moreover, we have, through curriculum for excellence, a lot of teaching on health improvements and on things that can support a person’s health and other things that can have negative health impacts. I am very much old enough to remember the snus that we were talking about earlier, but I also remember how, when I was in primary school and doing a project using advertisements, all the ads were for cigarettes.

That situation has completely changed now. I think that we have made a really important step forward in schools, and it is something that we need to continue. When the Scottish Children’s Parliament was at Cabinet a couple of weeks ago, one of the things that its members had a conversation directly with the cabinet secretary on was reducing the use of vapes, because they felt so strongly and passionately about the issue.