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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 May 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 September 2022

Siobhian Brown

Thank you. The approach is really important, especially given—this goes back to the previous question—all the challenges that we face at the moment. When the pandemic hit, there was no guidebook that set out the correct things for each country to do, and the comparisons between the different nations, which show who is and who is not doing things well, are really important for us to monitor. The website is fascinating, and it would be appreciated if you could get back to me with any information that you can get.

I want to move on to the issue of our ambition in recovery of moving towards a wellbeing economy. Lukas, I note that you have concerns that

“the current spending allocations will not be sufficient to achieve a meaningful redesign towards a Wellbeing Economy.”

Can the Scottish Government balance the competing pressures of the cost of living crisis and Covid recovery while also achieving a wellbeing economy?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 September 2022

Siobhian Brown

Good morning and welcome to the COVID-19 Recovery Committee’s 20th meeting in 2022. The committee has agreed to focus its pre-budget scrutiny on how the Scottish Government plans to fund its Covid recovery strategy and the on-going costs that are associated with the pandemic, as set out in the Covid-19 strategic framework.

I welcome our witnesses, who will speak about the Covid recovery strategy. I invite them to introduce themselves. We will go round the table; two witnesses are participating remotely.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 September 2022

Siobhian Brown

Thank you. That is interesting. Mairi Spowage wants to come in.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 September 2022

Siobhian Brown

Thank you, Mairi; you raise some valid points.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 September 2022

Siobhian Brown

Yes.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 September 2022

Siobhian Brown

Joining us virtually are Álfrún Tryggvadóttir—I apologise if I have mispronounced her name—from the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development and Mairi Spowage from the Fraser of Allander Institute. I ask them to introduce themselves.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Siobhian Brown

Good morning and welcome to the 19th meeting in 2022 of the COVID-19 Recovery Committee. The committee has agreed to focus its pre-budget scrutiny on how the Scottish Government plans to fund its Covid recovery strategy and the on-going costs that are associated with the pandemic, as set out in the Covid-19 strategic framework.

Today, we will focus on the strategic framework. I welcome our witnesses: Richard Robinson, who is a senior manager at Audit Scotland; Mary Morgan, who is chief executive, and Carolyn Low, who is director of finance, at NHS National Services Scotland; Dr Nick Phin, who is the organisational lead for strategic engagement and policy at Public Health Scotland; and Dr Graham Foster, who is director of public health at NHS Forth Valley and chair of the Scottish Directors of Public Health Group. Thank you for giving us your time this morning.

Each member will have approximately 15 minutes to ask questions. We should be okay for time, but if time runs on too much, I apologise in advance for having to interrupt members or witnesses in the interests of brevity. I ask the witnesses to briefly introduce themselves and their organisations.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Siobhian Brown

That brings me on to my next question. The resource spending review indicated that the total pay bill will be held at 2022-23 levels, although we know that the pay levels will increase. At the moment, from the latest data that we have, the vacancy rate is 7.7 per cent for medical and dental consultants, and 8.7 per cent in nursing and midwifery. In addition, the sickness rate in the NHS overall is 5.7 per cent, when the target is 4 per cent. How feasible is it for the NHS and public health services to reduce staff?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Siobhian Brown

We are slightly off topic. The Health, Social Care and Sport Committee is considering NHS reform, and we are more focused on the Covid recovery strategy.

Brian, do you want to ask another question before we move on?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Siobhian Brown

Agenda item 2 is consideration of a negative instrument. Members should refer to paper 3, which sets out the background. The deadline for a motion to annul the regulations is 30 October 2022. Members will see from the paper that no motion to annul has been lodged to date. Do members have any comments on the regulations?