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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 January 2026
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 10 November 2022

Siobhian Brown

Thank you very much.

We now turn to questions, and I will begin with Inclusion Scotland. Susie Fitton, thank you for your very detailed written submission. The committee has a keen interest in further investigating long Covid. Your submission says that nearly 4 per cent of people in Scotland are currently living with long Covid, which is around 202,000 people. Of those, 83,000 people have done so for more than 12 months and 44,000 are reporting that it affects their ability to undertake day-to-day activities.

One of the things that I found quite worrying in the submission was the fact that early studies suggest that at least half of those with long Covid meet the diagnostic criteria for ME. We know that ME is a profoundly debilitating neurological disease that can affect multiple systems in the body. I understand that, prior to Covid, there were 21,000 people with ME in Scotland. I note that a substantial proportion of long Covid sufferers are experiencing similar illnesses, which will have a direct impact on their ability to work. I note that you feel that action is urgently needed to address this problem. What would you like to see the Government doing to address that problem?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 10 November 2022

Siobhian Brown

Thank you, Susie. That is very helpful.

I will move on to the link between long-term sickness and economic inactivity. Scotland has a higher proportion of 16 to 64-year-olds who are inactive because of long-term sickness when compared with the rest of the United Kingdom; in Scotland, the figure has increased to 7 per cent, compared with 5.4 per cent in the rest of the UK. Why is Scotland relatively worse than the rest of the UK? On an international scale, how do we explain the continued rise in the UK inactivity figures in comparison to other Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development countries, where the figures are declining?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 10 November 2022

Siobhian Brown

I mean policies regarding the impact of Covid.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 10 November 2022

Siobhian Brown

Okay. Maybe I can ask how we can fully understand the full picture around long Covid when its impact is spread around different statistical sets.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 10 November 2022

Siobhian Brown

Yes.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 10 November 2022

Siobhian Brown

That is great. I am sorry, Jim: we need to move on because of the time.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 10 November 2022

Siobhian Brown

I thank the witnesses for their evidence and for giving us their time. If the witnesses would like to raise any further evidence with the committee, they can do so in writing—the clerks will be happy to liaise on how to do that.

We intend to continue taking evidence in our inquiry in November, before we hear from the Scottish Government at our meeting on 8 December. The committee’s next meeting will be on 17 November, when we will continue our inquiry by looking in more detail at early retirement as a driver of economic inactivity.

That concludes the public part of our meeting.

11:23 Meeting continued in private until 11:35.  

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 10 November 2022

Siobhian Brown

Professor Sheikh wants to come in.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 10 November 2022

Siobhian Brown

I put the same question to Tom Waters. We have two Toms with W names, so I will have to say your full names.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 10 November 2022

Siobhian Brown

I will bring in Alex Rowley now and then go back to Tom Wernham.