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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 May 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Excess Deaths Inquiry

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Siobhian Brown

Thank you, Mr Fairlie.

I thank the witnesses for their evidence and for giving us their time this morning. If you would like to raise any further evidence with the committee, you can do so in writing. The clerks will be happy to liaise with you on how to do that.

I suspend the meeting to allow for a changeover of witnesses.

10:39 Meeting suspended.  

10:43 On resuming—  

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Siobhian Brown

Under agenda item 2, the committee will continue to take evidence at stage 1 of the Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill. The focus of this evidence session will be on the named person nomination provision contained in part 3 of the bill.

I welcome to the committee Dr Arun Chopra, the medical director of the Mental Welfare Commission for Scotland, and Dr Roger Smyth, chair of the legislative oversight forum of the Royal College of Psychiatrists in Scotland. I thank them for giving us their time and for their written submissions.

I will give members the opportunity to ask the witnesses questions. If one of the witnesses would like to respond to an issue that is being discussed, they should type R in the chat box and we will try to bring them in.

As our witnesses join us remotely, I ask them to introduce themselves.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Siobhian Brown

What are the potential benefits and risks associated with the proposal to remove the requirement for a nominee as a named person to have their signature witnessed by a prescribed person?

10:45  

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Siobhian Brown

Thank you for that helpful historical insight. Perhaps I can bring in Dr Chopra.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Siobhian Brown

Thank you.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Excess Deaths Inquiry

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Siobhian Brown

Thank you very much for your valuable input. We will probably wait to see the data from this year a bit further down the track.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Excess Deaths Inquiry

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Siobhian Brown

Finally, we have Dr Francisco Perez-Reche. I hope that I pronounced that correctly.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Siobhian Brown

What are some of the issues that are encountered when organising the witnessing of a named person nomination? Does any of them predate the pandemic?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Excess Deaths Inquiry

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Siobhian Brown

Thank you. We turn to questions, and I will begin. Some of the previous witnesses in our inquiry have said that, at this stage, it is still very difficult to draw any conclusions on excess deaths and that we might have to wait a considerable time to do that. However, the consultation response from Chest Heart & Stroke Scotland says that, in the past year, there have been

“1,389 more ... deaths at home from heart disease and stroke and 679 fewer in hospital”.

That could be due to people’s reluctance to visit a general practitioner. The response states:

“Latest data shows 25% of people saying they would avoid contacting their GP at the moment.”

Those statistics are very worrying. Lawrence, would you like to comment further?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Excess Deaths Inquiry

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Siobhian Brown

Thank you. I agree with you. It is extremely important that people get back the confidence to visit their GP and do not ignore warning signs.

My next question is for Dr Fenton of Public Health Scotland and Dr Perez-Reche. What is your interpretation of the excess deaths data?