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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

There are a couple of points there. I appreciate what Pam Duncan-Glancy says about the current issues with children with additional support needs. I have alluded to the on-going work to support and bolster the Government’s commitment to outdoor learning.

There are issues that could be resolved at stage 2, but I do not see how the member gets through the workforce implications issue at stage 2, and I would be interested in hearing her views on that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

I was very clear to Ms Smith when she asked me the same question earlier—I cannot give a figure that is comfortable for me to deal with. Any figure that I give to you has to be defunded from somewhere else in my portfolio. The member and the committee are aware that there is very important work under way in my portfolio around the promise, transitions and a number of different things, and it would be for me to consider where to take money from to fund the bill, so I cannot give you a figure that is acceptable to Government.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

Because, due to the financial climate that we are in, the Government does not have a pot of money lying around that we can just take from. Significant decisions have to be made when thinking about new spending allocations.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

That was to discussing proposals for potential amendments.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

I cannot comment further on the ministerial decision-making process. I am sorry—I cannot give you any further information on that.

I am not sure whether Kirstie McKerron is able to provide further clarity.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

As I said, I cannot comment. It is not that I am not willing to comment. It is part of the ministerial code that I cannot comment further on the decision-making processes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

I am saying that I cannot comment further on the ministerial decision-making process.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

Sorry, but are you referring to the pilot approach?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

To be clear, the Government does not just have £5 million or £6 million spare to put forward for this. Any funding or money is subject to the budget process. As I said, the Government has been working, alongside the work on the bill, on a potential non-legislative pilot approach. If that was taken forward, the budget for it would have to be negotiated and considered through the budgetary process.

Mr Mason makes relevant points, but they would need to perhaps pre-empt the financial resolution and could be discussed in relation to a pilot approach.

I am sorry, but I am not aware whether a bill could be pulled at this stage. I might need to seek further clarity around that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

Sorry. Mr Mason asked—