The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
All Official Reports of meetings in the Debating Chamber of the Scottish Parliament.
All Official Reports of public meetings of committees.
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Natalie Don-Innes
There are costs attached to the bill that remain unknown. The process helps Parliament not to walk into unknown costs. Ms Smith has worked to bring the costs of the bill down, but there remain outstanding concerns about the unknown affordability of certain measures, such as the workforce implications, support for children with additional support needs and capital costs to improve the infrastructure. A number of matters have not been taken into account, all of which I have asked Ms Smith to address. Concerns remain outstanding. Parliament needs to be clear that we can gather data around the costs that have been put forward, but more time is needed for that and—
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Natalie Don-Innes
No. Again, it would not fall on the Government to complete that work.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Natalie Don-Innes
I am sorry, Ms Smith; by “not a Government-supported bill”, I mean that we abstained on the bill. This is not a Government-led bill—it is a member’s bill. Thereby, responsibility to work out the costings and affordability rests with you, as the member in charge.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Natalie Don-Innes
Yes. I will bring in Lewis Hedge for clarity, because I do not want to say the wrong thing.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Natalie Don-Innes
I believe that the total is £5 million to £6 million, but I could be wrong on that. However, it is clear that a non-legislative pilot would represent a significantly lower initial cost. The Government would have control over how and when any such financial implications would be incurred against the budget, so that would provide a greater level of certainty.
Also, a non-legislative pilot approach does not necessarily represent a recurring annual budget implication. Equally, it would give the Government time to learn. I have spoken this morning about the gaps in the data, which we are already working to overcome and want to overcome, and that approach would give us the necessary time to do so. Creating a new statutory obligation for what is, as I have said, an unknown total potential recurring annual cost is a significant risk that I and ministers have a responsibility to consider.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Natalie Don-Innes
I am sorry. You are asking why the Government has dedicated time to—
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Natalie Don-Innes
I appreciate where the convener is coming from but I am clear that the principal focus of the decisions and deliberations about the financial resolution for the bill should be on the costs of provision. I am trying to show the committee that the costs of provision that have been detailed already are not the total costs of the bill and there is a number of outstanding concerns about increasing costs that would mean that the bill has a higher price tag. Although the concerns might not, on the face of it, seem to be about affordability, when we start to dig into the data that we have in the figures that have been provided and those that have not been provided for some of those aspects, we see that they relate directly to affordability and, therefore, to the financial resolution.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Natalie Don-Innes
We will not have the information about the cost for the workforce in two weeks’ time.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Natalie Don-Innes
I should add that I am more than willing to engage with Ms Smith. I have proven that—I engaged with her throughout stage 1 and have continued to engage with her since then. I am more than happy to engage with her on potential approaches. When I raised the possibility of non-legislative approaches, she was not in favour of those—she preferred a legislative approach. However, I am more than happy to continue to work with her.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Natalie Don-Innes
That is what the potential pilot approach offers—a greater level of flexibility. As I discussed with the committee the last time I was here, there are children in rural areas who might benefit more from urban trips to cities that allowed them to take in museums and so on, rather than traditional residential trips.
There are also children with additional support needs who would not necessarily benefit from a residential stay. I know that there are already organisations, some of which I referred to in yesterday’s debate, that are actively involved in taking children with additional support needs on frequent day trips, because that is more suited to them.
It is important that there is flexibility, because we must ensure that what is delivered is what is needed by the children and young people. A week-long stay in residential accommodation is not necessarily right for all children and young people, although I understand the benefits that it brings for many.