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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

I will do my best to answer it.

As I said in my previous answer, I fully appreciate the issues that kinship carers have brought to me—they are very challenging. I know that kinship carers feel that they are not necessarily getting the financial support that they are entitled to and that there is a discrepancy in that respect. I should say that we are carrying out a review of the Scottish recommended allowance; indeed, I introduced that review, because I felt that it was important, given some of the challenges that I am hearing about in that respect.

As for the wider picture, there are also problems with kinship carers’ ability to access benefits and so on. We have ensured that that is not the case in Scotland but, in the UK benefits system, there are problems with, for example, universal credit when it comes to recognising kinship care. I continue to engage with UK counterparts on that, and I know that my officials have been in discussions, too, to try to ensure that kinship carers can get at least what they are entitled to.

Mr Briggs says that even that might not be sufficient to meet their needs. As I have said, I have discussed the issue with kinship carers, and I am looking at it, but not strictly from a financial point of view; after all, the support piece is very important, too. I have spoken to, for example, kinship carers who are elderly and have not looked after a child in a long time, and their support needs are a little bit different from those of other families. Every family is different and complex. From what I have heard, such carers can sometimes feel a little bit abandoned, and that is something that we absolutely need to combat. When it comes to the financial and support aspects, I am looking to the Promise bill for those things, too.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

Well, I am sorry that you have got that impression, Mr Rennie, but, as I said, there are a number of wide-ranging aspects in the Promise. I really have nothing further to say—I think that I have been very clear on my priority and my emphasis on driving this forward.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

If you are talking about formal discussions, I do not have that information at the moment. However, I assure the member that it is something that I discuss regularly with the cabinet secretary.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

I can come back to the member with that information, if she likes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

We discussed attendance and, specifically, care-experienced young people. I think that the discussion went into virtual schools and the virtual headteacher network, too.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

We did not discuss that in that exact call, but, as I have said, I have discussed that previously with the cabinet secretary. The member will also be aware that work is under way with Education Scotland, COSLA and the Association of Directors of Education in Scotland to develop and agree meaningful outcomes in relation to the education ask in the Promise. It is something that we are working on. I appreciate the concerns about those statistics, but please be assured that those conversations are taking place.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

I do not think that the approach is joined up enough at the moment. Indeed, part of the First Minister’s priority in that respect is to ensure that there is more of an understanding of how to implement it at a local level, and that such understanding is on a national basis so that there is no inconsistency in practice. The most recent budget set out the next steps towards our commitment to introducing more flexibility in how key services can be designed, funded and delivered. As you point out, there are inconsistencies, but work is being driven forward to try to improve things at a local level.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

Of course.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

Mr Ross, I—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

Yes, absolutely. The whole family wellbeing funding is for just that purpose—to create transformational change and new ways of doing things to enable local authorities or CSPPs to revolutionise the way that they provide services. You will not be surprised to hear that I have been out making visits, and I have heard about some of the impacts that the new ways of working have had with regard to breaking down silos and barriers between departments in government. Of course, work has been done through the third sector, too, which has been key. I am very positive about the work that we are seeing as a result of the whole family wellbeing funding.