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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 30 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

If you mean in connection with the single-member panel, I believe that I mentioned that in my response to your first question on this area.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

A statutory duty is already placed on local authorities through regulations to support those who are eligible for aftercare and to provide them with suitable accommodation. The decision should be assessed based on the young person’s needs. Underpinning that approach is the Government’s guidance on aftercare, corporate parenting, social housing allocations and the homelessness code, which together set out the need to take a prioritised and tailored response to ensure that young people move on from care.

Work is on-going on that. We seek to further improve young people’s care experience by finding appropriate housing. Our focus is on progressing the recommendations of the “Improving Care Leavers Housing Pathways” report. A prevention and strategy group is being set up, led by Kate Polson, chief executive officer of the Rock Trust, which Mr Rennie will be aware of. I will soon meet the Cabinet Secretary for Housing to discuss that work. I am aware that she is coming to the Cabinet sub-committee to provide an update on the priorities for improving care-experienced people’s experiences when it comes to accessing housing.

A number of work strands are under way to improve those experiences. Many local authorities have powers to prioritise care-experienced people’s housing needs, and many already use them. The powers are used in different ways, so I want to see a little more consistency, which I will look at going forward. I hope that that answers some of the member’s concerns.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

I did not ask the Cabinet Secretary for Housing about this issue specifically—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

Mr Ross, you are not giving full credit to the complexity of introducing a Government bill. As I said, I have to consider a range of factors around what will be in a bill and how we gather the data for that. There was no thought of, “We’ll put this in the bill and then consult after.” It was very much about the timescales involved in introducing the bill prior to summer recess. That was my focus. I can only apologise again if we have not given the committee the fullest of answers in relation to that specific aspect of the bill.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

I will engage with and work on those concerns, and we will discuss and work through them as we analyse the consultation response and work to build on those aspects of the bill.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

Mr Ross knows that I take a keen interest in financial memorandums. We have discussed them at length with this committee.

In a second I will bring in Gavin Henderson to speak to the engagement side, but I think that it comes back to the complexity around many of the measures. The bill has various aspects and provisions, and efforts have been made to engage on specific aspects. I admit that there is a level of complexity in refining the figures, but, from my side, there have been active attempts to engage and find the most appropriate financial figures to provide to the committee.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

The Government is seeking to tackle that from a wider perspective. We want to progress engagement with the United Kingdom Government to explore the removal of the legislative restrictions that currently limit our ability to enhance human rights protections across areas that are devolved to Scotland. However, if that engagement does not prove successful by November 2026, the Government will seek a more straightforward and effective route to extending protection for children’s rights by commissioning a review of the provisions in the acts of Parliament of the UK that affect devolved areas to identify key provisions that interact with children’s rights.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

The difference between the two relates to the fact that, under the Public Services Reform (Scotland) Act 2010, independent fostering agencies are already required to operate on a not-for-profit basis; no such restrictions currently apply to the residential side of things. Only a small number—nine out of 26—of independent fostering agencies are not yet charities.

Gavin Henderson spoke about destabilising provision. I think that there is less risk of that on the fostering agency side. At the moment, 48 per cent of residential services are run by private providers so, if those two measures were applied in the same way immediately, there would be a higher risk of losing placements or providers exiting the market. The proposal reflects a more balanced approach. I think that we could still get there with the residential side, but that approach reflects a more timely and safer way of doing so, to ensure that we do not lose out on placements.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

Yes, I am confident of that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

I will need to bring Barry McCaffrey in to speak to that directly.