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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 30 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

It is just still morning, yes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

Yes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

As we have mentioned, they will be in line with the provisions that are already in place under UNCRC and under the getting it right for every child framework, so local authorities already have that responsibility.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

Okay, sorry if I misheard your question and went on a different strand. Can you repeat it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

Stakeholders have come to me with concerns about ensuring that the register is independent. I do not have a definitive answer, but I can certainly see why that would be the right approach and am considering that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

The issue in that regard is that there is responsibility across a number of fronts to deliver on the Promise. Of course, I am the minister with responsibility for the Promise, so I lead from the front in that respect. However, we have whole-Government effort, local government effort and third sector partners who are working daily to deliver the Promise, so I think that it would be hard to make one person accountable for the entire journey, remembering the time that is involved in that. However, I have been very clear that there is room for more accountability. There are already ways in which we are looking to understand the level of delivery of the Promise across Scotland.

We have aims and targets for what we want to see, and I have already mentioned the inconsistency across Scotland on the different areas of delivery of the Promise. Further work could be done in that regard, but I do not necessarily think that I can put on record in the committee right now who I think should be seen to be accountable for it, because there are a lot of delivery partners across Scotland. However, there are certainly ways in which we could look to increase accountability.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

With regard to some of the guidance and regulations, not just in relation to the definition of “care experience”, but a number of other things—for example, the register of foster carers—there will be opportunities to engage with not only the people who will be impacted but those who might implement aspects of the policy. It will give additional time and flexibility to realise the bill’s aims. As I have said, I do not think that there is always a necessity for specific aspects to be in the bill.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

—but, as I said, we are enhancing and widening access to aftercare, so—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

If I could bring in—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

Again, I find that surprising on a lot of levels, because I meet regularly with The Promise Scotland and I engaged with it frequently. I emphasise again that that engagement was not on the specific provisions in the bill, because that would not be the correct process. I come back to my earlier comments about the fact that it was very clear that there were areas that were likely to be in the bill, given the host of public consultation exercises on those. I do not have anything further to add, other than that I am disappointed that there is that feeling that there has been a lack of engagement. However, I assure the committee that my officials and I continue to engage directly with The Promise Scotland. Mr Ross, you yourself said that The Promise Scotland said that it had no idea what was included in the bill, but that is the parliamentary procedure, which I have to follow.