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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

I have not seen the paper, Mr Ross, so I am not going to say yes or no.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

Yes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

I have not spoken to them directly on the issue, but I am more than happy to do so.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

—on which I cannot necessarily have a direct impact, if such a decision has been taken.

As the Government minister, I am here to direct policy and—of course—to try to convey the ethos of the Promise and ensure that local authorities are signed up to it. We have heard clearly today that there is a real drive from local authorities, from the third sector and from a number of organisations in delivering the Promise. As I said, I have been very clear about my thinking around 15-minute timetables and how they should be used as a transition to go back into school, but I am more than happy to have further discussions on these matters.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

My view is that it should only be a last resort, and that other measures should be taken to support that child or find out what is happening in that child’s life that is causing the reason that they would be excluded. As I said, I believe that it should be as a last resort.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

As I said, we are working on progress towards supporting children and young people in their school day. We are experiencing a number of issues in our schools, as the member will be aware, and the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills has just launched the relationships and behaviour action plan. We are taking a number of actions to try to reduce exclusions. Yes, if the Promise says that we are to end exclusions, that will have to be the case if we are to deliver on the Promise by 2030—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

That is something else that we consulted on, and we are still analysing the responses. It was clear that people wanted a broad definition of care experience that encapsulated the vast range of different experiences that people with experience of care may have had. It will be fundamental, in that some aspects of access to services and so on are reliant on care experience. I will bring in Gavin Henderson to say a little more about the work that has been done since the consultation closed.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

I am saying that I would encourage headteachers to look at every other solution, whether that be things such as part timetables or removing children from the school but, equally, still ensuring that they are able to have an education and transition back into school. I do not believe that exclusions—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

In order to deliver on the Promise, it will need to end.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

We need to understand that, in exceptional circumstances, a part-time timetable or a flexible approach might be needed to appropriately support a child or a young person who might have been out of school for days or months and to enhance their transition back into school.

However, I and the Scottish Government have been very clear that part-time timetables for a child or a young person who is returning from an exclusion should be used only in the short term, not for long periods, because that approach is an effort to transition children and young people back into school. That approach should be taken only in the short term, for a defined period, and aims and conditions should be recorded in a plan that will allow the child to transition back into the school day.