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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 November 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Paul McLennan

Let us move on to part 2 of the bill, which introduces an exemption for a situation in which a public authority is compelled to act incompatibly with the UNCRC’s requirements. What is your view of the Scottish Government’s reasoning for including the further exemption to the compatibility duty? The witnesses have partly answered that question. I do not know whether anyone wants to add anything specifically about the compatibility duty and part 2 of the bill.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Paul McLennan

Thank you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Paul McLennan

Fraser, I will come to you first. We have talked about rights under the UNCRC, the compatibility duty in the bill, and the Scottish Government’s reasoning for the further exemption from that duty in part 2 of the bill. You have touched on that already. Do you have anything to add on that point?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Paul McLennan

Alejandro, do you have anything to add?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Paul McLennan

You have all touched on the UNCRC. I know that the UNCRC provisions are in part 2, but it is relevant to the other question that I asked, too. Does anyone else want to come in and pick up the UNCRC point specifically? We heard about that from witnesses on the previous two panels.

I ask Caitlin Fitzgerald to respond specifically on the UNCRC point and on the general question as well. Angela O’Hagan can come in, too. It seems to be a rolling theme in all our evidence sessions so far.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Paul McLennan

I welcome the witnesses to the meeting.

I want to ask about some of the specifics. My question is kind of in three parts. The bill requires a school to inform a child if their parent asks for them to be withdrawn from religious observance or RME. When that request has been made, the child is given an opportunity to express their views and the school has to seek a discussion with the child and parent. I would like to hear your thoughts on that and on the fact that a school must respect the child’s wishes, even if their view differs from that of their parent.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Paul McLennan

Does anyone else want to come in?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Paul McLennan

I want to move on to something a bit more specific. It is a three-part question. I do not know whether you heard the questions that I asked the previous panel, but it will be similar to those. It is about the requirement for schools to inform a child if the parent asks for them to be withdrawn from RO or RME. When a request has been made, the child is given an opportunity to express their views. The school must seek a discussion with the child and parent, and the school must respect the child’s wishes if their view differs from that of their parents.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Paul McLennan

Alejandro Sanchez, what are your thoughts?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Paul McLennan

Does anyone else want to come in on that particular point?