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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 August 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Michelle Thomson

Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Michelle Thomson

We have heard some comments about how we provide best value. Martin Booth started that off. However, I am sure that Richard Robinson has a view about the cost of central Government and the increase of £30 million when we see other budgets being cut. He has drawn our attention to the report about the need for workforce planning and so on, so I would appreciate his thoughts. Richard, were you surprised by that increase? What are your reflections on that aspect of the budget, in the light of the report that you produced at the back end of last year?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Economic and Fiscal Forecasts

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Michelle Thomson

Good morning. I will focus on just one point, because we have a lot of areas to cover and I know that everyone wants to come in.

On the issue of behavioural change, I fully accept what you said about the figures that the convener highlighted and your point that they are relatively small in relation to the overall income tax base. As I understand it, your modelling is based on those who might be impacted, but I am interested in exploring the second-round effects, if you like, against the challenge of counterfactuals.

I note that, this morning, Professor David Bell said:

“my concern is that it will be difficult to attract the workers and investment to Scotland that are needed to generate sufficient growth”.

The same sentiment has been expressed elsewhere. Instead of, as we would imagine it, people leaving the country, it might well be that people just do not come. That is one possible scenario among a multitude of them. I would like to hear a bit more on your thinking and reflections on that at a big-picture level.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Economic and Fiscal Forecasts

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Michelle Thomson

You bring out something else. People say that net migration from the rest of the UK into Scotland is higher than it is the other way round, but I suppose, if that is true, there is a question about the implications for tax and investment.

I appreciate that we do not have the answers here. I am just trying to get more of your reflections. The problem is that we do not know what will be true until after the event.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Economic and Fiscal Forecasts

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Michelle Thomson

I am sorry to interrupt, but I suppose that you are looking at the data that is coming through and, as I heard Professor Roy say, past evidence. I am not talking about a Laffer curve tipping point, but I am trying to explore the perception of Scotland as a place to invest. Does this change anything at all in that respect?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Economic and Fiscal Forecasts

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Michelle Thomson

We all agree that it is a problem that we do not know.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Artificial Intelligence and Education

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Michelle Thomson

Good morning, everybody. I have a couple of areas that I want to look at, but, first of all, I want to ask quite an open, exploratory question.

To what extent is the issue here the requirement for skills that enable young people to use AI effectively—you have started to allude to some of that with regard to the different ages and stages of learning—and to what extent is it knowledge? My personal view is that acquisitive skills and curiosity will be utterly vital, because it is only through curiosity that young people will be able to learn the skills to interrogate and question things. However, you are the experts and I would appreciate hearing the views of Ollie Bray and perhaps Judy Robertson on that question, first of all, although I know that you will all want to come in.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Artificial Intelligence and Education

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Michelle Thomson

Chris, does what Helena Good has just described play into your earlier points about assessment, measurement and how things are going to radically shift?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Artificial Intelligence and Education

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Michelle Thomson

I agree with you, and you have neatly led on to my final question. How on earth do we begin to tackle the challenge? I am mindful that, as parliamentarians, we need to support the education sector to keep up with the pace of change, which is startling and almost unfathomable at this point.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Artificial Intelligence and Education

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Michelle Thomson

I am aware that our Scottish AI Alliance is underpinned by ethics. It is a key part of the framework, although one can then argue, “Well—whose ethics?”, which is, of course, an entirely different discussion.

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