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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 July 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

Thank you.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Convener

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

Congratulations on your appointment, Colin. I think that it is time for you to take the chair.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

Okay. We look forward to hearing more about that.

My last question is on project willow, which you have referenced. An issue for people on the outside looking in—and one that we raised in this committee when we looked at the just transition—is that the governance of the Grangemouth future industry board was at that point a little uncertain. I know that things have now changed and that there is dual convenership between the UK Government and the Scottish Government, but the board’s operation with regard to its accountabilities and responsibilities is still not clear to me.

It seems to me that, given Ineos’s role at the heart of absolutely everything and in driving project willow, you have been able to adopt a highly successful hedge position. You will win if you win, and you will also win if you do not win, because you are absolutely at the heart of all measures that are driving Falkirk district forward, whether it be the Forth green freeports, what has happened with project willow and so on. How have you personally, or as a company, assessed the risk of a conflict of interests between yourselves being at the heart of all those things and what is best for the wider area, including the community of Grangemouth?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

Okay. There is a lot of data in the documents, so are there any other areas in which there has been a deduction in the net zero budget that has gone to the enterprise one—in other words, is there anything else that fits this anomaly of deducting money from the climate emergency to put into growing the economy?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

I will move on. To what extent do in-year transfers reflect the Scottish Government’s priorities?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

I have looked at the impact assessments, and a third of them state that there will be no impact. Women are mentioned just twice—I fully accept what you said about the UK budget revision—but we know that cuts generally affect women disproportionately. I am just commenting that I was somewhat surprised, because it looked to me that the assessments had been done not only late but quite quickly. Any further information on that would be helpful.

I want to pick up on a comment that the convener made regarding the process that I referred to, when we were chatting earlier, as “internal shoogling”—moving money from budget pot to budget pot. I entirely understand the need for some of that, because new information will be coming in. Given the extent to which that happens—fairly regularly now—how does that fit with the drive for fiscal sustainability? The amount and the extent of that clearly indicates that a lot needs to be done. I understand some of the reasons for it, and what the drivers are, but it does not exactly scream of fiscal sustainability, considering the extent of the process.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

If they were done, why were they not published?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

Yes. Obviously, what the public sector does can be used to crowd in private sector investment, but we keep having different statements. As has already been pointed out, perhaps you got lucky with your excellent internal planning, but we will not have a final understanding until the spring budget revision. People from the outside are looking in and hearing Scottish Government statements of intent about the money. What assessment have you made of how that will affect your ability to crowd in private sector investment?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

The Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government noted in her statement on 3 September that impact assessments would be carried out. However, they were not published until 3 October. Impact assessments, including equality impact assessments, should be done before that, so what was the rationale for the delay and for the assessments not being published until a month later?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

There were net funding changes of £19.6 million. That money was moved from net zero and energy.