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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 24 September 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Michelle Thomson

If Ineos is on the board, it is clearly influencing it at that level. I would not necessarily expect it to be involved in delivery, but it is a key influencer by merit of its being on the board.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26 and Economic and Fiscal Forecasts

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michelle Thomson

When I searched your report, I found that you mentioned “risks” in a number of paragraphs, including those relating to the pay bill, pay policy, NICs, the income tax net position, the mitigation of the two-child cap, energy prices, supply chains and interest rate rises. However, from reading those paragraphs, because they are in long form, I did not necessarily get a great sense of what you consider the probability of each of those risks to be and what the impact will be if those things happen.

For example, on page 71, there is a throwaway comment about energy prices and supply chains, and you mention that there could be trade wars as a result of the election of the new US President. If something like that were to happen, that could have a pretty catastrophic impact. Could you give a sense of that impact? Your report is already quite lengthy, but I did not necessarily get a sense of your thinking from reading it, so perhaps you could give us a bit more flavour.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26 and Economic and Fiscal Forecasts

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michelle Thomson

Good morning. Thank you for joining us.

On page 9 of your report, you state that there is

“a material limitation to information available to the Scottish Parliament for its scrutiny of the Budget and in the spending analysis we can do.”

I think that that is in reference to the £1.3 billion resource increase. Following on from Michael Marra’s comments, what is your assessment of the data gaps in the budget that pertain to that statement? What is your general sense about that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26 and Economic and Fiscal Forecasts

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michelle Thomson

London will always grow strongly relative to everywhere else, so that is a baked-in inconsistency. Anyway, I feel that we have strayed off topic, but thank you very much for that.

For my last question, perhaps you can confirm for me something about rates relief. When we are looking at the reliefs in Scotland compared with what is happening in the rest of the UK, the finance secretary suggested somewhere—unfortunately, I could not find her exact comment; perhaps it was in the question-and-evidence session after the budget statement—that the relief could not be projected or put in place in quite the same way as it could in the rest of the UK because of a material difference. Could you give us a bit more information as to why that was the case? We know that some reliefs have been put in place in rural areas and so on.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26 and Economic and Fiscal Forecasts

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michelle Thomson

I think that my colleague Ross Greer wants to come in on that, so I will leave it there.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26 and Economic and Fiscal Forecasts

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michelle Thomson

Yes—especially in the context of a yearly fixed budget.

I want to pick up on some language in the report that I think is slightly disingenuous—I hope that you do not mind me saying that. You use the term “economic performance gap” in a number of places, and you are making the point that the Scottish Government will raise an additional £1,676 million in income tax but will benefit by only £838 million. My challenge to you is that, if every region of England was subjected to the same fiscal framework mechanism, there would always be an economic performance gap, because of the gravitational economic pull of London and the south-east. That is a function of the fiscal framework. I would appreciate your thoughts on that. I know that, technically, what you have said is correct, but there is a multitude of reasons why that situation occurs.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26 and Economic and Fiscal Forecasts

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michelle Thomson

Yes. The Scottish Parliament information centre made that comment in its assessment of the budget. Things have moved forward, but there is still further to go in terms of tracking actual spend.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26 and Economic and Fiscal Forecasts

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michelle Thomson

You have commented that the amount of capital funding that is available is much clearer but that the rate at which it can be spent is less clear, because it is front loaded. Does that add to the overall opaqueness?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Michelle Thomson

I do not want to veer away from Aberdeen. Stuart Bews made an interesting observation relating to papers being ready to be published. To that extent, is it the case that the funding is not really ring fenced? Is that the inference that you drew from that situation? Is that the case for the other councils on the panel?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Michelle Thomson

I am targeting these questions at you both because of the breadth of your regions. What effect—positive or otherwise—has that had on the relationships between the multitude of key stakeholders with whom you engage? Was it slightly awkward at the start before there was the usual forming stuff? Have you noticed differences in the relationships and the collaboration across all your stakeholders?