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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 July 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

Thank you for joining us—I am sorry you had such a long trip through. I want to pick up on your starting points. You referenced certain documents and your review of the accounts. First, who did that review? You do not necessarily need to give the company name, but was the review of the accounts done by a fit and proper person? Secondly, when were the documents shared with the Scottish Government and, I presume, the UK Government?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

You have turned down the volume with your latter comments. However, I want to be absolutely clear: is it your contention that the information that the committee has been given by Petroineos regarding the hydrocracker and its operational safety is inaccurate, or do you not have sufficient information to be able to make that assertion? If it is the latter, are you able to provide the committee with all the pieces of evidence that you believe support your view? Can you clarify that point for the public record?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

Okay, thank you.

I want to look at the bigger picture. I have often heard people commenting about energy security, and Unite has also made a comment about it. In the light of changed geopolitics—an issue that I brought up in committee last week—to what extent do you think that issues around energy security have been fully factored into the decisions regarding the refinery? On the back of that, what level of confidence do you have that the new geopolitical world, and energy security in particular, has been factored into the decision making of the UK Government and the Scottish Government?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

A lot of the questions that I was going to ask have already been covered. You have clearly put a great deal of work into the bill, and you acknowledged some of the main questions in your opening remarks.

On the appetite to get the bill through, one thing that struck me was the Scottish Government’s memorandum, which states:

“The financial implications of the Bill on public finances are significant and unaffordable, as currently drafted, and put into question whether the intentions of the Bill are realistically deliverable.”

Those are quite strong words. Although you have indicated that the Government has been supportive and has taken a neutral position, how on earth are you going to get over that hurdle and that statement about the financial implications?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

I do not disagree. You have made claims about the value of outdoor education. I think that, if the right funding model could be found, the value could be even greater. Although the benefits are good, they are being derived from only one event during a school pupil’s attendance from primary 6 to secondary 4.

I do not have any further questions, convener, because they have all largely been covered.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

I have a few questions. The first is on the potential for delegation to Registers of Scotland and the Scottish Environment Protection Agency. You can delegate responsibilities to those bodies, but you remain accountable. Can you talk me through your risk assessment to ensure that nothing goes awry with that? It is not that I have any particular concerns, but any form of delegation brings risk—that is where I am coming from.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

The third area of potential risk is AI-enabled cyberattacks, which have become increasingly more sophisticated. Is that something that you expect your new digital person to consider in more detail?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

You knew that I was going to ask about the board, so thank you for bringing that in, too.

That is me as far as my questions are concerned, unless you have anything to add, Aidan O’Carroll.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

You have already answered my follow-on question. That was fairly well documented.

This is a question that I asked you last year, but I will ask it again, because I am going to put it to every public body that comes in front of me at any committee. How are you preparing for the potentially exponential growth in the use of artificial intelligence? What is your thinking this year compared with last year? What external consultants are you using, and what is your risk assessment? This is just a checkpoint.